In our company, we created a small Access database, which was in a network folder for everyone to access it.
After a while we decided to split it into a backend and a frontend. The new frontend is at the same location the original data was while the original data, serving as the backend now, is in a subfolder of the folder it used to be located in, so all relevant data is accessible to the the employees as it has always been.
The current problem is, that today, most of the time both the BE and the FE have their ".Iaccdb" files showing up and if you try to open any of the two, BE or FE, it will say, that a user is using the database in the exclusive mode.
I guess solving the problem at hand isn't the main issue here. What I rather like to know is, WHAT must have happened, to cause both files to behave this way.
I heard about this happening to either the BE or the FE, but never both simultaneously.
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I found out what caused the issue and in doing so also have to apologize for omiting one relevant detail: The old file I started with also had connections to Sharepoint lists.
Because of that, I couldnt just use the split function as it doesn't work if you're database is connected to Sharepoint.
So my workaround was to copy the access file in the upper folder as the new FrontEnd. In this new file/FE, i just created links to the old file's table, which now serves as the backEnd.
As I said, there were connections in the old file/BE.
When I first tried the FE, it worked properly. only when someone already opened the FE and another one wanted to do the same, the issue of users blocking each other appeared.
My solution was to get rid of the SharePoint connections in the old file/BE and now everything works smoothly.
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I am building an application that connects to a mysql database. I set up the data connections and data source (data set) and have begun working on development, going back and forth between adding tables and views to the database and adding forms and components to the application.
I have up to now used the "Configure Data Source with Wizard" wizard to refresh the dataset in the application. Sometimes it takes a couple click throughs to get it to fully load the changes, but that's not the end of the world.
Today, without me knowingly changing anything, when I click on the wizard button, the frame of the wizard opens and closes instantly.
My data is accessible, and the parts of the application already developed work just fine, but I don't know how to add new tables and views to my project. My worry is that something went screwy in one of the auto generated dbDataSet.* files.
I'm happy to provide more information if that will help.
To answer my own question for whomever comes here next:
I came across this solution:
https://stackoverflow.com/a/4749044/7640114
It links to a microsoft.com page that is no longer available, but copies the relevant information. Finding the corresponding files is not hard, but knowing what the wrong Provider is may not be so simple.
Mostly because of a lack of patience, I just went with the second option and deleted the entire folder, which may have been overkill. It worked, and I have access to the wizard again and can continue development, but it also wiped out my workspace layout which I now have to rebuild from my memory.
Win some/loose some. In the end, I suggest being more delicate and removing lines of code from DefaultView.SEView first, and then moving on to trying to delete the file and the folder if nessasary.
I have been working on a submission form for two of our employees' to enter tax data. It is an InfoPath 2010 form, which is connecting to an Access 2010 accdb. The purpose of the form is to pull related data from two source tables (one from the old dB that was used, and the other from APX which houses additional information) to prefill as many fields as possible. Everything works fine when running it from my computer, or directly off our server. The problem I am running into now, is that our two users have access to the files, can open them with InfoPath Filler, but upon opening, they get the "InfoPath cannot connect to the data source...". The funny thing is, is that last week, they were able to connect and submit data with no problem (then one day I came back from lunch and it no longer worked). How I had to originally set them up was to create a certificate, make the forms full trust, added both user ID's as being able to have read write access. When I run the form from my desktop it works without a hitch. I even tried remapping to a mdb to see if it was a version issue. The dB is stored on a shared domain, \testdomain\, for arguments sake. Then they access the form via the same directory. Just to note, SharePoint is not connected in any way. All the searches I have done have yielded no solutions. I am thinking it is a networking issue, and have a meeting with the network admin in a few hours. But, what I can't figure out, is how it worked before, and not now. Does anyone have any suggestions or thoughts on what could be causing this? Just to clarify, I can run the same xsn form they run, from the same server location, without having the issue they do. I truly appreciate anything anyone might be able to offer!
Ok, finally figured out what was causing the problem (totally feel dumb). Apparently the servers used randomly get backed up, and when they do, the permissions get overwritten. If anyone else runs into this, review the access permissions for the directory and all the files. Thanks Nathan for your advice!
I have a front-end Access 2007 apllication which talks to MySql server.
I want to have a feature where the application on the user's computer can detect that there is a new version on the network (which is not difficult) and download the latest version to the local drive and launch it.
Does anybody has any knowledge or exprience how this can be done?
Thanks
Do you actually need to find out if there is a newer version?
We have a similar setup as well, and we just copy the frontend and all related files every time someone starts the application.
Our users don't start Access or the frontend itself. They actually start a batch file which looks something like this:
#echo off
xcopy x:\soft\frontend.mde c:\app\ /Y
c:\app\frontend.mde
When we started writing our app, we thought about auto-updating as well and decided that just copying everything everytime is enough.
We have enough bandwidth, so the copying doesn't create any performance problems (with about 200 users).
Plus, it makes some things easier for me as a developer when I can be sure that each time the application is started, the frontend is overwritten anyway.
I don't have to care about auto-compacting the frontend when it's closed (and users complaining that closing the app takes too long...), and I don't have to deal with corrupted frontends after crashes.
#Lumis - concerning the custom icon:
Ok, maybe I should have made this more clear. There is only one batch file, and it's in the same network folder as the frontend.
The users just have links on their desktops which all point to the same batch file in the network folder.
This means that:
future changes to the batch file are easy, because it's only one single
file in one central place
we can change the icon, because
what the user sees is a normal Windows link
(By the way, we did not change the icon. Our app is for internal use only, and I'm working in a manufacturing company, which means that all but very few users are absolutely non-technical and couldn't care less about the icon, as long as it's the same on all machines and they know how it looks like so they can find it quickly on their desktop...)
Tony Toews has one: Access Auto FE Updater
It appears to be free, but I'm not 100% sure.
Lumis's option is solid, however if you want to check the version and only copy the database when their is a new version, have a 'Version' field in a back end table, and a 'Version' constant in a front end module. Keep these in sync with each new production release. Compare the table version against the version in the module when the main form of the front end database opens.
If they don't match, have the database close, but have the database call a batch file as the last bit of code to run as it's closing. The database should finish closing before the batch file begins it's copy process. If needed, place a minor delay in the batch file code just to be sure there are no file locking issues.
David Fenton recently mentioned in another thread that
"The only proper place for any Access app (since Windows 2000, in fact) is the folder the %AppData% environment variable points to."
I greatly respect David's knowledge, especially in all matters relating to Access, but I'm confused by this statement.
What is the advantage of following this advice, especially in an environment where you are going to have multiple people using the same computer to access your app?
Won't installing to this folder only install the app for one user? And if this is true, won't installing your app multiple times leave multiple, separate copies of your app on the machine? Hard drive space is cheap these days, but I still don't want a front end file and other supporting files (graphics, Word and Excel templates, etc.) copied multiple times onto a machine when one copy will do.
What are your thoughts? Am I missing something key to understanding David's advice?
Yes, this is an issue but the only way around it is, assuming the IT admins allow it, to create a folder in the root of C drive and install the Access FE database file in that folder. That said I'd stil use the Application Data folder even if files are duplicated. As you state hard drives are cheap.
This assumes you don't mean a Terminal Server/Citrix system where users are simultaneously logged into the system.
First off, this is an issue only for a workstation that has multiple users logging on to it. That's pretty uncommon, isn't it?
Second, you admit there's no issue with disk space, so the only real issue is keeping the front end up-to-date, and that issue is really completely orthogonal to the question of where the front end is being stored.
That issue can be addressed by using any of a number of solutions that automatically copy a new version of the front end when the user opens it (if needed). Tony Toews's Auto FE Updater is the best solution I know of. It's quite versatile and easy to use, and Tony's constantly improving it.
So, in short, I don't think there's any issue here at all.
If everything is always the same for every user on a given machine, then multiple copies of a file may not be such a good idea. But when that one exception occurs, you've painted yourself into a corner. They may need a different template version for example.
You seem to be in a rare situation for an Access developer.
You're running into a bit of an issue here, because you're thinking about the environment variable name %appdata%. That variable stores the directory returned by SHGetSpecialFolderPath(CSIDL_APPDATA).
What you're looking for is the directory returned by SHGetSpecialFolderPath(CSIDL_COMMON_APPDATA). There's no environment variable for that directory. This directory is (as the name indicates) common to all users.
The advantage of David's method is that the Access data is protected by NTFS access rights, when it's in CSIDL_APPDATA. A user can only delete his copy. In CSIDL_COMMON_APPDATA, anyone can delete the single shared copy.
It's probably always best to put these advice and tips into perspective. The assumption being made here is if your application is going to be utilized in a multi user mode (that means more than one user in the application of the same time), then it's pretty much assumed that your applications going to be split into two parts. The so called application part (front end), and then the data file only part, or so called backend part.
So, you have a FE and a BE.
In this environment, each individual user within your office will have their own copy of the application placed on their workstation. The BE (data file) is thus assumed to be placed on some share folder on a server.
In the case we're not going to have multiple users running this application, or the application is not really under development, then you really don't need to split your application into two parts. However if you split your application, it means all of your users can safely work and utilize your application while you work on a copy of the next great version of this application release. Without a split environment, you really can't have any workable development cycle.
It is a long time and honored suggestion that if you're going to use access in a multi user environments, each individual user must have a copy of the front end application placed on each individual computer. If you avoid this suggestion, the end result is instability in the general operation of your application.
I have an article here that explains on a conceptual level and doesn't just tell you two split your application, but explains well why you should split your application:
http://www.members.shaw.ca/AlbertKallal/Articles/split/index.htm
I'm working on a MS Access database. I've made some changes to one of the modules. I want to go out for lunch, but when I try closing the database, I get the following message:
"You do not have exclusive access to the database. Your design changes cannot be saved at this time. Do you want to close without saving your changes?"
I'm pretty sure nobody else on the network has the database file open, and I don't have any other Access databases open. I'm probably missing something obvious, but would really appreciated some help!
Update:
In the end I copied all the code, closed the database without saving, re-opened it and pasted the code back in. I was then able to save the database. I'm not sure if this was a one off, but I'll report back if it happens again.
If you're sure no one else is in the db but you, it's an additional connection to your db from your own pc. You can verify this with the LDB viewer, downloadable in the free JetUtils.exe download from Microsoft:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/176670
Look through your code and check if you have two separate database objects in the default workspace or another database object in a separate workspace. That will cause this problem.
To fix it, make sure the database objects are set to nothing before they go out of scope, and if you opened the database object in code, you also need to close it before setting the database object to nothing.
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Update in August 2022:
The MS link above no longer works. The document remains available on Archive.org, but is outdated. A document that appears to provide the current version of its information is at:
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/office/troubleshoot/access/determine-who-is-logged-on-to-database
This provides VBA code for a sub to obtain a list of users. The writer of this update has tested that code successfully in Access 2019.
If you close the database and are sure nobody else has it opened, check to see if there is a .ldb file (it will have the same name as your database file). If the file is there, then there is a good chance it is still in use.
Is it being access by a service, like a website?
You could copy the database to another sub-directory and make your changes. If that doesn't work, I will have to look that up. Of course there is always the database tool, "repair and compress database..."
Is the file located on a file server? If so check to see if any users have a file handle to it.
If it still doesn't work, update your post with your new information and we'll go further.
UPDATE (9/26):
Another thing I do when having strange issues with access databases with contain vba code is decompile. I don't know if this is documented yet, I haven't looked in years, but it's was (at least) an undocumented switch to msaccess.
From a cmd line:
change directory to where msaccess.exe is located.
Run the following command
msaccess \path to access file\databasefile.mdb /decompile
usually runs very quick then opens the database. Open any module and compile.
Doesn't always work, but sometimes can remove strange happenings.
Did you ever trying to copy the database to another directory and making your edits? That should of worked; you could then rename the original and copy the file back.
Anyway, I am glad you are working again.
If even a word mail merge is linked to the access database, that counts as an access connection.
Very simple.
Close all of your MSaccess files.
Open task manager (by right click on task bar).
Select Processes tab in that.
If the list has a msaccess*32 process close that by clicking on End Process.
This worked for me. I think it closes all the recordset which we have not closed in the codes or which is closed forcefully.