How to disconnect this loop relation - ms-access

I have a database, contains these tables. but the relation is loop and it causes problem when creating a form.
We have many classes, each class may have more than one QUIZS, but not all classes have the same QUIZS, they are different, and for each QUIZ students have mark.
The way I designed the databbase is quizs are related to each class one-to-many and quizs are related to student as many-to-many relationship, an inner table ( Quiz-degree) in between.
The issue is it becomes a loop design becaus quis is also related to the ckass table.
I tried to think of a better design but could not find a one.
Appreciate if someone has a better design.

It looks like there is no referential integrity in your design except for foreign keys referencing the Class table. You should probably fix that. Apart from that there doesn't seem to be anything wrong with your design.
As far as we can tell from the diagram there is no circular dependency in the sense that ER modellers normally understand it because A) Not all the tables have foreign keys, B) If all tables did have foreign keys then they would not form a directed loop anyway.
The only question here is what problem you have when using forms. You didn't explain the problem but in any case it's usually very unwise to structure your database design around the needs of the UI.

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MySQL many-to-many relationship table usage

I have three tables: Resumes, Orgs, and Resume2Org. Basically, Resume2Org is my many-to-many relationship table linking Resumes.resume_id to Orgs.org_id (so it only has those two keys in that table).
My question is, is it okay to use that many-to-many relationship table to store other data? My use case: the database is part of a system to sift through incoming resumes. But I've been asked to implement a "marked as read" feature so we can easily get the list of resumes we haven't looked at yet. But since a resume can belong to many different orgs, we only want to mark a resume as read for the org the user/viewer belongs to. I thought, hey, having that flag in Resume2Org would be perfect. Is this a smart approach, or should I create a new table specifically for "marked as read"? All the examples I've seen about many-to-many relationship tables is that those tables are used just for that... linking two tables.
Yes it is okey to have additional fields in a many-to-many table. I think it is the right way to do in your case as you don't need to join additional tables and you save spaces.
I was in a very similar situation last week and I added additional field for that.

Best Practice: Separate Tables for Separate Info on Same User

I am designing a database for student information. I wish to implement the best practices regarding separate tables and use of Primary and Foreign Keys.
Let's say I have the following tables (High Level):
Users
Student Information
Student Transcripts
Student Records
There will be different users with different levels. Also, the information in Student Info/Transcripts/Records will all have a Foreign Key with the ID that's in Users.
SO, it would be dumb to just clump all the tables into one big table, wouldn't it? Is it a good idea to keep all this information separate and just use Primary/Foreign keys to link things together, as well as maybe Joins? I just personally think a big table would be quite messy and through this way, it allows one to keep similar data together with its own kind.
Thanks for all input on the matter!

Database Design - structure

I'm designing a website with courses and jobs.
I have a jobs table and courses table, and each job or course is offered by a 'body', which is either an institution(offering courses) or a company(offering jobs). I am deciding between these two options:
option1: use a 'Bodies' table, with a body_type column for both insitutions and companies.
option2: use separate 'institution' and 'company' tables.
My main problem is that there is also a post table where all adverts for courses and jobs are displayed from. Therefore if I go with the first option, I would just need to put a body_id as a record for each post, whereas if I choose the second option, I would need to have an extra join somewhere when displaying posts.
Which option is best? or is there an alternative design?
Don't think so much in terms of SQL syntax and "extra joins", think more in terms of models, entities, attributes, and relations.
At the highest level, your model's central entity is a Post. What are the attributes of a post?
Who posted it
When it was posted
Its contents
Some additional metadata for search purposes
(Others?)
Each of these attributes is either unique to that post and therefore should be in the post table directly, or is not and should be in a table which is related; one obvious example is "who posted it" - this should simply be a PostedBy field with an ID which relates another table for poster/body entities. (NB: Your poster entity does not necessarily have to be your body entity ...)
Your poster/body entity has its own attributes that are either unique to each poster/body, or again, should be in some normalized entity of their own.
Are job posts and course posts substantially different? Perhaps you should consider CoursePosts and JobPosts subset tables with job- and course-specific data, and then join these to your Posts table.
The key thing is to get your model in such a state that all of the entity attributes and relationships make sense where they are. Correctly modeling your actual entities will prevent both performance and logic issues down the line.
For your specific question, if your bodies are generally identical in terms of attributes (name, contact info, etc) then you want to put them in the same table. If they are substantially different, then they should probably be in different tables. And if they are substantially different, and your jobs and courses are substantially different, then definitely consider creating two entirely different data models for JobPosts versus CoursePosts and then simply linking them in some superset table of Posts. But as you can tell, from an object-oriented perspective, if your Posts have nothing in common but perhaps a unique key identifier and some administrative metadata, you might even ask why you're mixing these two entities in your application.
When resolving hierarchies there are usually 3 options:
Kill children: Your option 1
Kill parent: Your option 2
Keep both
I get the issue you're talking about when you kill the parent. Basically, you don't know to what table you have to create a foreign key. So unless you also create a post hierarchy where you have a post related to institution and a separate post table relating to company (horrible solution!) that is a no go. You could also solve this outside the design itself adding metadata in each post stating which table they should join against (not a good option either as your schema will not be self documentation and the data will determine how to join tables... which is error prone).
So I would discard killing the parent. Killing the children works good if you don't have too many different fields between the different tables. Also you should bear in mind that that approach is not good to solve issues wether the children can be both: institution and companies but it doesn't seem to be the case. Killing the children is also the most efficient one.
The third option that you haven't evaluated is the keeping both approach. This way you keep a dummy table containing the shared values between the bodies and each of the bodies have a FK to this "abstract" table (if you know what I mean). This is usually the least efficient way but most likely the most flexible. This way you can easily handle bodies that are of both types, and also that are only of type "body" but not a company nor an institution themselves (if that is even possible or might be possible in the future). You should note that in order to join a post to an institution you should always reference the parent table and then join the parent with the children.
This question might also be useful for you:
What is the best database schema to support values that are only appropriate to specific rows?

Refactoring a One-to-many relation to a Many-to-Many in MySQL: How to formulate the query?

In the initial 'version' of the application that I'm working on, a design consideration wasn't taken into account - no one thought of it.
However, it seems that the original one-to-many relation needs to be refactored into a many-to-many. My question is how best to do this? I'm using MySQL for persistence.
Populating the relationship table will only be a one time effort, I'd rather go with a simple query or a stored procedure approach (I'm not well versed with the latter); rather than write java/jdbc based logic to do it (I know I can and it's not too difficult, but that's not what I want)
So here's an example of the relation:
|VirtualWhiteBoard| -1------*- |Post|
A virtual white board can have many posts. The new functionality is: 1 post should belong to multiple white boards if the user chooses to 'duplicate' current white board (not thought of before)
The schema looks like this:
VirtualWhiteBoard (wallName, projectName,dateOfCreation,..., Primary_Key(wallName, projectName));
Post(post_id, wallName,postData,..., Primary_Key(post_id), Foreign_Key(wallName, projectName));
The virtual white board has a composite primary key (wallName, projectName) and each post has a post_id as primary key
Question: Take the primary keys from VirtualWhiteBoard and Post and add it to the new relation 'has_posts':
|VirtualWhiteBoard| -1------*- |has_Post| -*------1- |Post|
To keep the previous relationships intact and then drop the foreign key column of wallName in Post.
How best to achieve this? Would a query suffice or stored procedures would be required?
(Although I can do this in the 'application' I'd prefer to do it this way, since such refactorings are bound to arise and I don't want unnecessary java-code lying around that'll need to be maintained and would personally prefer to have such a skill too :)
Create your has_Post table with two columns post_id and wallName and populate it with this query:
INSERT INTO has_Post(post_id, wallName) SELECT post_id, wallName FROM Post
Then delete the wallName column from Post table.

How to create mysql table with many hasMany association in CakePHP?

I'm defining a completely new database. I have now faced a problem
which I would describe as "usual" but still could not find good
information from web. So here's the problem:
I have many tables in my database (which I would describe as guides) such as:
Skills
Places
Activities
and so on...
Now to all these guide types I'd like to add a comment feature and
other similar features like attaching images and videos. I have many guide types so I dropped the idea of having a separate comment image and video tables for each of them. I need one table for each of them.
The question is, what is the best way to achieve this? I have heard and read about 3 solutions and I'm not familiar with none of them.
I have read about using UUIDs would fix this problem but I'm not very familiar how they function. Could someone elaborate on that if that is the correct way to go? Something about UUIDs I read but not quite understood it.
Other thing I have read about is creating a hierarchial model "tree table" which would hold association links. More info at Managing Hierarchical Data in MySQL.
I have also read about creating object tables and using program like object inheritance inside MySQL in a similar way like the hierarchical model.
UUIDs sound most simple so I would appreciate help in there.
I don't know anything about how to use them. But here's how I thought it works - at least you'll get a hang of it what I'm trying to achieve here and how/what I'm misunderstanding about them:
I would create a new table: Guides which could have UUID field.
Then link all those guide types (Skills etc.) to guide table (Guide as parent and the other as child)
Parent and Child have both UUID fields and when creating a guide Parent and Child gets same UUID so they can be linked. Child also has its own Id field.
Then link comments to Guides by using UUID field that points to Guide plus separate id int field for comments.
Please tell me if this is correct way or is it total garbage and if so, how I should do it?
Have you though about using a normal hasMany relationship with a condition? Read about it here.
class Skill extends AppModel {
var $hasMany = array(
'Comment' => array(
'className' => 'Comment',
'conditions' => array('Comment.type' => 1), // 1 for skills, 2 for places etc. or something like that.
)
);
}
Check http://cakeapp.com, create your DB layout there and download the SQL later.
I read more about UUIDs and since they allow application wide unique IDs I was able to do "inheritance" style of database.
I used my own prefix at the start of the every table name to avoid reserved table name collisions such as object. You can use any kind of prefix, for example: my_ and to use it like: my_object. All tables should use prefixes in this example.
So I created table Objects. It has the id field with Binary(36) type. Cake recognizes it as UUID field. Then I used 1:1 identifying relationships and inherited other tables from it, which I wanted to interact with others.
So I created 1:1 identifying relationship to Comments, Videos, Pictures table so that the table had the identifying foreign key being also a primary key.
Then I created Mappings table to which I used two 1:1 non-identifying relationships without primary key. This means this was really HABTM relationship to self.
Now this let me to "inherit" other tables from Objects table, like News table with again 1:1 identifying relationship. Then it was possible to link Comments, or anything other that has the 1:1 identifying relationship to Object, to News table by using the Mappings table.
I hope this will help others who are pondering this kind of solution aswell.