Can model derivative get all the information from BIM? - autodesk-forge

I'm very new to forge and revit. I've been trying to see if I can get all the information from Revit / BIM file programmatically. I know I might be able to get it with DB link or excel, but export to excel seems an extract steps.
Then I found out Forge, I was assuming Model Derivative APIs will did the job for you, basically upload the files to bucket and click on the models to select object, let's say a floor, I should be able to make API calls with all the information about that floor. However, when I play around with Forge, it seems like not every information is in the properties. Is that correct? Or I just didn't implement it correctly?
Thanks for your answer.

It is possible to get all the information regarding properties of any/all object(s).
First you need to get the URN of the version of the file, get the metadata from this API:
https://developer.autodesk.com/en/docs/model-derivative/v2/reference/http/urn-metadata-GET/
Use the next 2 APIs in the above link to get properties of any/all object(s).
In case you don't know how to get URN:
The way you get URN is from forge Data Management Api, you can list Hubs > Projects > Folders > Items > Versions.
This tutorial guides you on the steps.

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Fetch Metadata of a model using model derivative api (Forge)

I was trying some hands on with forge services, I want to fetch few object's properties inside of a revit model uploaded on bim360/ACC, for which I am calling two API's 'https://developer.api.autodesk.com/modelderivative/v2/designdata/job' for translating the job to svf and then calling API "https://developer.api.autodesk.com/modelderivative/v2/designdata/" + urn + "/metadata/" (with urn of the translated job) (failed when passed urn of revit file directly)
Can we not directly get the metadata/properties without converting the file to svf? Since translating to svf is taking a lot of time for large files, my motive is to decrease the time to fetch the properties, can you share any solutions if you think of any please?
Yes, you are correct in assuming that you need to translate to SVF in order to access any BIM element properties at all. It's either that, or open it in desktop Revit and access the data there. Also discussed in the Revit API discussion forum thread on fetching metadata of a model using Forge model derivative API.

Is it possible to use Autodesk Forge to get the file activity log for Autodesk Construction Cloud Docs models?

I would like to use Autodesk Forge to extract the log of activities (named "File Activities") for models stored in Autodesk Construction Cloud Docs. An example of the information is attached as an image below. I have so far been unable to find anything in the Forge Documentation, other than extracting the file attributes and last modified information.
Is it possible to extract the file activities? If so, what is the best way for me to proceed?
File Activities
Unfortunately, no API exposed for the activities functionality. I will log a wish.

Get Discipline of View [Autodesk Model Derivative API]

I'm trying to get the Discipline Property of a Revit Model uploaded to BIM 360. I was able to get the list of views by GET
https://developer.api.autodesk.com/modelderivative/v2/designdata/URL_SAFE_URN_OF_SOURCE_FILE/metadata
However there is no data on Discipline. Where and how can I get it?
I'm not familiar with "Discipline Properties" in Revit but I can comment on the Forge side of things:
The GET :urn/metadata endpoint simply returns a list of "viewables" that were extracted from the source design file. In case of Revit, these are typically 3D views or 2D sheets. I'm not aware of any other types of viewables that could be extracted by the Model Derivative service.
If the "discipline property" is a property available on some of the Revit elements, you might want to take a look at the GET :urn/metadata/:guid/properties endpoint. This one returns a JSON with properties of objects in one of the extracted viewables. Note that those properties are also accessible from Forge Viewer using its APIs.
In general, the Model Derivative service is trying to extract the "right" amount of information, making sure that the viewer gets all the important data for visualization and analysis, but also making sure that the size of the converted output stays in bounds. If there is some specific information in Revit designs that you need that is not extracted automatically, you can consider using the Design Automation service to process your Revit models in the cloud and extract all the information with your custom Revit plugin.

How to query for TimeLiner data from Forge API?

I used the TimeLiner plugin for Navisworks to create a 4D timeline. I'm now trying to grab this TimeLiner data from the Forge API. When I log into BIM360, I'm able to load a model into the viewer and see all TimeLiner information within a browser. However, I don't see how I can accomplish this with the Forge API. Is there an available API for this? Or is there another way to grab this info?
Unfortunately, the Timeliner properties are not extracted by Forge service (which BIM 360 is running on), and also some other properties. This blog tells in detail:
https://forge.autodesk.com/blog/updates-navisworks-nwd-translation-engine-coming
Currently, we do have an advanced option to override default configurations to tell NWD/NWC translator if it needs to translate Timeliner properties. BUT, this option is about Forge Model Derivative API ONLY.
While in BIM360 Docs UI, there is no any plan to expose options to let users override default configurations when they upload files. So for now, users uploading NWD/NWC files to BIM 360 Docs will lose Timeliner properties. Consequently, you will have to open those files inside Navisworks to view Timeliner data or take advantage of the Navisworks API to extract the data inside Navisworks. We apologize for the inconvenience.
However, we have legged a wish BIMPLT-698 with BIM360 engineering team to evaluate the possibility of adding options for end-user when they upload the model files. You're welcome to track the updates in the future via sending an email quoting this wish id to the Forge support channel.
Note. Triggering your own translation job to override your desired translation configurations via Forge Model Derivative API on files uploaded to BIM360 will charge you for cloud credits. You will have to consider the extra costs if you want to do so, and see here for the pricing: https://forge.autodesk.com/pricing

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I have a need to display models stored in BIM360 in the Forge Viewer. For this reason I'd like to list all models that are contained in a project.
I was looking at fetching them using the search API. Is this a reasonable way to do it? I guess the only way to identify model files is to use attributes.fileType in the filter? And then look at the relationships.derivatives data. Or is there some other way to search for models?
Unfortunately, your request is not supported by the Search API currently. With my experience, extracting relationships.derivatives out is the only way manually from the API responses that contain this attribute e.g.
GET projects/:project_id/folders/:folder_id/contents
GET projects/:project_id/items/:item_id/tip
GET projects/:project_id/items/:item_id/versions