I want to monitor a chatroom with a selfwritten chrome extension. Because I don't know anything about the scripts behind the chatroom system itself, I thought about a simple timer and export script.
My idea is a periodical timer (let's say every second, because it has to react as fast as possible) calling a function, which reads the complete HTML of the current tab (with chrome.pageCapture.saveAsMHTML) and sends the hole HTML to an external REST service (via XMLHttpRequest()).
I know that this approach is very ressource consuming, but that doesn't matter as all this will run on a dedicated computer. Of course I thought about using chrome.webRequest.onCompleted to trigger the export but, as already mentioned, i have no idea about the technical interna of the chatroom.
Unfortunately I can't find any API to create a time base on seconds, but only on minutes (chrome.alarms.create). Or is there a more elegant way to do this job?
Any hints appreciated.
More elegant way would be to use a MutationObserver, at least as a source of a "there are some changes" event. But maybe the chat is implemented in such way that getting the changes (and then sending only changes, not the whole page) will be convenient too.
Hi guys I am constructing a task distribution management system for my team in which I want to add a functionality that:
When I create a task, I will have an option to choose "how long is this task valid for being taken". For example, when creating the task I put "2 hours" in the
<input id="valid-for">
, then this task will only be displayed on the dashboard for 2 hours from the time it was created and then after 2 hours -> "display: none".
I've searched the web for the mechanism of achieving this feature but I didn't get a satisfied answer probably because I don't know the right terminology to google. I tried to use AJAX and use TIME_STAMP type attribute in MySQL but didn't know how to proceed. Could anybody tell me how to achieve this feature by the use of MySQL, jQuery or any other technics that could fulfill this feature? No code necessary I just need some explanation.
Thanks guys!
Without knowing any more details, here is how I would consider writing the code:
In the database, have a start time and a use-by time.
In your browser page, you can run a script periodically, say every minute (this is called polling). In this case, you can use Ajax to call back to the server for updates.
At the server end, check for new tasks as well as expired tasks. Then send the results back to the Ajax caller.
Back at the browser, update the dashboard accordingly.
I would be inclined to remove the task on the browser rather than simply hide it.
My real-time document allows the user to edit the file name within the editor (much like Google's own apps). I represent this as a collaborative string so all collaborators see the file renames as soon as possible.
I'm trying to determined the best and most efficient way to keep this collaborative string in sync with the actual file name. There are two scenarios to consider:
In Editor Changes
If a user edits the document name within the editor. In this case we need to use the Drive API to push that change out to the file on Google drive. To avoid race conditions, it is best if only one of the collaborators pushes the change out. The easiest way to do this seems to check if the rename event was local.
I also found it best to add a delay so we are not pushing the rename out to the Drive API with every character change. If a few seconds pass with no more name changes at that point it pushes the change out. This all seems to work well.
External Changes
The harder one and the one I am interested in requesting advice on, the case when the file name is changed externally. For example, if the user renamed the file within the Drive interface itself. We want this change to update our collaborative string to match.
My application is entirely client-side so I can't use webhook push notifications. So my only solution is to poll the file name every X seconds (currently set to 10). But this presents the following problems:
It is API intensive. If you have 4 collaborators that keep the screen open for 8 hour that is 11520 API calls. If my app has lots of users with lots of documents I could see how this might push me past my API limits.
To avoid race conditions (and reduce API calls) we only want one collaborator to check for changes and update the collaborative string if the file name has changed. But how to pick when collaborators might join/exit at any time? Currently I am having each collaborator check anytime the collaborators change if they are the "leader". The "leader" is the collaborator whose session id is the highest. This seems to work but it all seems fairly hackey. Also if collaborators join close together I wonder if it might be possible that a race condition would cause multiple collaborators to think they are the leader.
Is there an easier way? An real-time API function I am missing?
It would be ideal if the real-time API just provided a method that stored the document name. Anytime the real-time API checks for mutations it could grab the latest document name.
I think you've identified the options. There isn't any built in functionality currently to sync it via the Realtime API specifically.
Personally I'd probably back off the poll time a lot.. its probably not critical that the title is always exactly up to date, so asking every few minutes is probably sufficient and would greatly reduce your qps.
In terms of identifying a "leader", I can't think of anything better than something deterministic based on the session id. So long as each rechecks on each session join/leave event, I don't think there should be any issues.
When using distributed and scalable architecture, eventual consistency is often a requirement.
Graphically, how to deal with this eventual consistency?
Users are used to click save, and see the result instantaneously... with eventual consistency it's not possible.
How to deal with the GUI for such scenarios?
Please note the question applies both for desktop applications and web applications.
PS: I'm working with the Microsoft platform, but I imagine the question applies to any technology...
A Task Based UI fits this model great. You create and execute tasks from the UI. You can also have something like a task status monitor to show the user when a task has executed.
Another option is to use some kind of pooling from the client. You send the command, and pool from the client until the command completed and the new data is available. You will have a delay in some cases from when the user presses save to when he will see the new record, but in most cases it should be almost synchronous.
Another (good?) option is to assume/design commands that don't fail. This is not trivial but you can have a cache on the client and add the data from the command to that cache and display it to the user even before the command has been executed. If the command fails for some unexpected situation, well then just design a good "we are sorry" message for misleading the user for a few seconds.
You can also combine the methods above.
Usually eventual consistency is more of a business/domain problem, and you should have your domain experts handle it.
I think that other answers mix together CQRS in general and eventual consistency in particular. Task-based UI is very suitable for CQRS but it does not resolve the issue with eventually consistent read model.
First, I would like to challenge your statement:
Users are used to click save, and see the result instantaneously... with eventual consistency it's not possible.
What do you by this? Why is it not possible to see the result immediately? I think the issue here is your definition of result.
The result of any action is that that action has been performed. There are numerous of ways to show this! It depends on what kind of action do you want to complete. Examples:
Send an email: if user has entered a correct email address, it is almost guaranteed that the action will complete successfully. To prevent unexpected failures one might use durable queues since this kind of actions do not need to be done synchronously. So you just say "email sent". Typically you see this kind of response when you ask to reset your password.
Update some information in a user profile: after you have validated the new data on the client, most probably the command will succeed too since the only thing that could happen is the database error (if you use database). Again, even this can be mitigated by using durable queues. In this case you just show the updated field in the same form. The good practice for SPA is to have a comprehensive data store on the client side, like Redux does. In this case you can safely update the server by sending a command and also updating the client-side store, which will result in UI to shows the latest data. Disclaimer: some answers refer to this technique as "tricking the user", but I disagree with this definition.
If you have commands that are prone to error, you can use techniques that are already described in other answers like Websockets or Server-side events to communicate errors back. This requires quite a lot of additional work. You can also send a command and wait for reply or execute commands synchronously. Some would say "this is not CQRS" but this would be just another dogma to be challenged. Ensuring the command has completed the execution in combination with the previous point (client-side data store) will be a good solution.
I am not sure if there is any 100% bullet proof technique that allows you to always show non-stale data from the read model. I think it goes against the principles of CQRS. Even with real-time events you will only get events that indicate that you write model has been updated. Still, your projections could have failed and reacting on this is a whole other story.
However, I would not concentrate that much on this issue. The fact is that well-tested projections and almost-guaranteed commands will work very well. For error handling in 90% of situations it is enough to have some manual or half-manual process to recover from those errors. For the last 10% you can combine generic "error" messages pushed from the server saying "sorry, your action XXX has failed to execute" and the top priority actions could have some creative process behind them but in reality those situations would be very very rare.
There are 2 ways:
To trick a user (just to show that things has happened then they
really hasn't happened yet)
Show that system is processing request
and use polling in background (not good) or just timer with value of
your SLA.
I prefer the 1st option.
As someone has already mentioned, task based UI's fit well for this, and what I would do is employ a technique that 'buys you time' for the command to propagate.
For example, imagine we are on a list screen, where the user can perform various actions, one of which being to add a new item to the list. After choosing to add an item you could display a "What would you like to do next?" which could have 'Add another item', 'Do this task', 'Do some other task', 'Go back to list'.
By the time they have clicked on an option, the data would have hopefully been refreshed.
Also, if you're using a task based UI, you can analyse the patterns of task execution and use these "what would you like to do next" screens to streamline the UI. Similar to amazon's "other people also bought these items".
As previously stated, it is fine to tell the user that the request (command) has been acknowledged (successfully issued). In case of some failure, the system should communicate this to the requester, by means of:
email;
SMS;
custom inbox (e.g. like the SO inbox);
whatever.
E.g., mail client / service:
I am sending a mail to a wrong address;
the mail service says: "email sent successfully :)";
after few minutes, I receive a mail from the service: "email could not be delivered".
I believe a great way to inform the user about a recent failure is to present him an error panel while he's navigating through the application. A user gesture might be required in order to dismiss that alert etc.
For example:
I wouldn't go with tricking the user or blocking him from committing some other actions. I would rather go for streaming data toward UI after they are being acknowledged by a read side. Let's consider these two cases:
Users saves data and expects result. Connection is established toward server. After they are being acknowledged by a read side, they are streamed toward UI and UI is being updated.
User saves data and refreshes web page. Upon reload, data are being fetched from data store and connection for streaming is established. If read side didn't update the data store in the meantime, there's still an opened stream and UI should be updated after data reaches the read side.
Why streaming from read side and not directly from write side? Simply, that would be a confirmation that read side has been reached.
From technical aspect, Server-Sent Events could be used.
Disadvantage:
Results will still not be reflected immediately by a read side. But at least, in most cases, user will be able to continue with his work without being blocked by a UI.
There are several ways to handle eventual consistency. All of them are really to occupy the time from the User's action until the backend refresh.
User Reads A given user can only read from the same database node that they write to. Other users read from the replicated nodes. PROS: UI is quick enough, and application stays in sync. CONS: Your service architecture has to track and route Users to specific database nodes.
Disable the UI until the action has completed, and refresh it. Java Server Faces has a classic example of this. One could create a modal with a loading spinner to cover the UI until the refresh was completed. PROS: UI stays in sync with application state. CONS: Most every action creates a blocked UI. Users get very frustrated by the restricted UI, and will complain of application slowness.
Confirmation Immediately thank the user for their submission. Then let them know later (email, SMS, in-app notification) whether or not the action was completed. PROS: It's fast up front. CONS: UI lags behind system until refresh. Even with a notice, the User may get confused that they don't see the updates. It also requires integration of various communication channels. Users won't see their changes right away. If the action fails, they may not know until it's too late.
Fake it Optimistically assume that the action will complete. Show the User the resulting UI (upvote, comment, credit card confirmation, etc) and allow them to continue as if it succeeded. If there were failures, immediately show them as contextual errors: alerts next to the undone upvotes, in-app alert on the post with the failed comment, email for the declined credit card. PROS: UI feels much faster. CONS: UI is temporarily out of sync with application state, and you must resolve that. One case: you might fake creation of content with temp IDs. But after content is created, then the temp IDs will be wrong until the refresh. Second case, you might need to store all state changes on the UI after the action until the refresh. Then you need some Resolver to apply all the local state changes since the action was issued. This is resolution is non-trivial.
Web Sockets Subscribe the UI to an event stream so that when the action is completed on the backend, it is pushed to the front end. Is it one-way or two-way streaming? PROS: UI feels fast, and it's in sync with the application state. CONS: Consistent browser support, need a backend source of streaming events, and socket server scalability.
There is information on a website that is neatly listed and every so often (not on a set schedule) it updates with new information. I am wanting to write a quick script that will automatically let me know when something new has been updated instead of letting me know every x-amount of house/minutes.
My initial thought was that I would have the script pull all the information I was looking for and store it in a list and on the next scan create a new list and get rid of all duplicates which would leave me with what the new information is.
If you know of an effective way to go about such things and could lead me in the right direction, it would be appreciated.
I'm not really looking for source code, just how to go about it and I'm sure I can put it together after some guidance on an efficient way to do it.
You can poll the website, there is no real way you can register a change listener.
If you are ready to poll then document.lastModified (js) can help.
Of course if your website have rss feeds then you can listen for changes.
or there are some free services that will send you an email notification if you register for their services. things (eg: http://www.followthatpage.com/)