ok, first time poster, long time user of the site (when googling for clues).
I'm just starting coding, and made this site (all on plain HTML and CSS - made one in Bootstrap but didn't liked the usability - will test Foundation and Sass+Susy later on).
http://limakeppler.com.br/teste/areas.html
But I got two stupid (I believe) problens.
First: Can't made one css ref to work on mobile and browser window resive (got two entries on the html for the same external css). Ready about proper media-query usage, but can´t make it at all. Some pointers for just having one media-query wich work for both would be nice.
Second: Even with the same css (wich needs some work by the way), in mobile size, I got different results opening the site in Chrome Iphone simulator, or just rescaling the browser window? How can I fix this?
Thanks in advance, and sorry for my english. If needed, just ask and I will post the relevant code (but for what I saw here, a hosted page would work).
This is a bit of a general question. Different browsers render things differently but usually within a reasonable range. Often major differences in rendering across modern browsers are due to a lack of proper prefix code. If that is the case you can try something like https://autoprefixer.github.io/.
If you're referring to your <H1> elements overlapping on mobile device width, it's the padding:1em; that is crushing the text together. Instead you could try using % to replace em.
found the problem. As I found out, Iphone browser got some weird resizing going on. So I just add
<meta name="viewport" content="width=device-width,initial-scale=1">
and everything works as expected. Damn, maybe that's why a framework is not a bad idea :P
thanks for the help anyway.
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I have a Windows 7 with service pack 1, and Internet Explorer 10. And I have my site, http://www.gfcf14greendream.com/ . It looks great on Chrome, Firefox and Safari, but not in Internet Explorer. For starters, I wanted to test how my site looks using IETester, and it's a mess (please compare by clicking the link above):
The thing is, I think that maybe the issue could be that IE8 doesn't load well from <object> tags, is that it? I use three object tags to load the three white parts: header, vertical menu, and "site log" (you can see them here: http://www.gfcf14greendream.com/header.html , http://www.gfcf14greendream.com/verticalmenu.html , http://www.gfcf14greendream.com/thesitelog.html)
To load those three sites, I use the following code:
This one for the header, <object type="text/html" data="http://www.gfcf14greendream.com/header.html" width="100%" height=185></object>
This one for the menu, <object type="text/html" data="http://www.gfcf14greendream.com/verticalmenu.html" height=484 width=100%></object>
And this one for the log, <center><object type="text/html" data="http://www.gfcf14greendream.com/thesitelog.html" height=600 width="90%"></object></center>
Please let me know if anyone has any ideas concerning this "mess". Thank you!!
This isn't a real answer (It's a quick and careless answer at best, so don't take it too seriously)
But I just thought I'd mention that the the W3C markup validator might be useful to you if you don't already know about it.. It catches bad markup practices or errors on your page and can give you more information on how to fix them. At the time of writing, your front page alone has 10 errors and 3 warnings on it. Maybe this could point you in the right direction?
upon a quick skim of your page you don't seem to be utilising CSS properly. That is to say, that I see you are using css but you have elements on your page (use of <center> HTML tags, inline styling and things like that) that go against the grain of why CSS was invented.
If you haven't already seen the CSS zen garden, take a quick read/look at it. It should set you right on why we use CSS instead of tables and alignment tags.
(People sometimes don't get this immediately, but , click the links on the right in the zen garden. The same HTML and page content are completely restyled using one html file and seperate CSS sheets)
Good luck!
Edit:
Oh, I almost forgot to mention that internet explorer 8 doesn't have much (if at all) HTML5 compatibility. If you want to develop websites and web apps in HTML5 you'll be hard pressed to serve your I.E 8 visitors and may end up spending more time fixing bugs than you are developing the content.
Some developers are already boycotting I.E 8 entirely to usher in the new era of the web with HTML5 and CSS 3. There are a few js compatibility libraries out there (like excanvas for the new <canvas> element for example) but they don't work flawlessly and you will eventually have to draw the line somewhere. (lol. canvas.. draw line.. get it?) That being said, i did find this article and this may be useful to you:
turn-on-html5-in-ie8-or-lower
Not every website requires HTML5 and it's new technologies, but if you plan on using it for things like the <canvas> tag, Id suggest (from my own personal opinion) you forget about I.E 8 and concentrate on browsers that utilise it.
Remember that you can make checks in your HTML to see what browser version your visitor is using.
You can see if they are using an incompatible browser, and if so, you can then alert them that their software is out of date and suggest to them alternatives (such as chrome or firefox)
There's a bunch of tutorials on-line about this, here's the first decent looking one I found in a quick Google search this article covers using this technique for seperate CSS sheets but there are others that talk about the problem I mentioned in more depth and I'm sure you can probably figure out how to do it anyway once you read the article.
Either way, I'd say you've got a little bit of reading ahead of you to understand why your humble website does not work in an increasingly obsolete browser.
Again, good luck to you in your future endeavours.
Edit was too harsh:
Having looked a the site I would start by suggesting in future you think about design from a users perspective - the colour scheme you're using isn't very friendly on the eye, the red text against the green is particular troublesome to people with red/green color blindness, you also should consider how your content is presented.
End Edit:
However, regarding your IE issues.
First things first, with any work is getting a firm plan of what you hope to achieve and setting a good groundwork before starting. With HTML that means leveling the playing field with regard to browser quirks, and to achieve that, you use a reset css file.
This ensures that all browsers (as close as possible) behave in more or less the same way, regarding padding, spacing, line heights etc, and can go along way to prevent these sort of problems from happening, and allow you to achieve consitancy.
There's more info at the link below.
http://meyerweb.com/eric/tools/css/reset/
Secondly your HTML version - your declaring HTML5 but then use HTML4 values and attributes - basically your site (as pointed out above) is not valid markup.
Is there any tool that allows you to automatically test page under different browser and make sure CSS looks good?
P.S. I know it sounds impossible, but maybe there are some solutions (like taking screenshots and comparing them)
https://browserlab.adobe.com/ - adobe id is needed, but it's free.
and
http://netrenderer.com - just for IE.
Both only take screenshots, but with a very little delay.
also for ie http://www.my-debugbar.com/wiki/IETester/HomePage - It's still in alpha state so it can only be trusted to a point.
Personally though, I pretty much have every browser in my comp so I can test things out in the actual browser. Plus all of the major ones do have web dev tools so.. if you can download all the browsers that's a good choice.
And I really just test all around functionality. For example if text is little different in some browsers then so be it, as long as it doesn't get cut or anything.
Tried BrowserStack? http://www.browserstack.com/
There was some other site I occasionally used to use that returned a set of images, but I can't remember what it was, and it wasn't always accurate.
You can use http://browsershots.org/ to create screenshots on all types of devices and browsers. This might be what you are looking for.
This is the first time I will be implementing for IE9 and since I've installed Windows 7 which came with IE9, every site I have checked that we've built has some issues in IE9.
What I'd like to know is:
Is there a way to absolutely use minimal CSS to sort out all three browsers or will there always be the need for conditional css for the different IE versions?
Is there a specific doctype I should be using that will sort a lot of this out?
Many thanks,
James
It depends on your needs and requirements. My personal website has exactly one style sheet that works across all major webbrowsers. But my personal website is very simple.
Nope. But please, do pick and include a doctype. This article explains how it will effect rendering in IE.
1) 8 and 9 are pretty similar, 7 has a few things missing. Yes, you will always have to take into account all 3. This may be by removing any problems with the browser BEFORE you style with a CSS reset, although this doesn't solve everything, or use conditionals.
2) Not really, the browser will automatically select one if one is not defined. Either way, it won't change how the page renders.
The best way to minimise the problems is to use an initial CSS Reset file to bring as many of the differences back into line as possible.
Also, consider using a well established CSS framework such as 960 Grid or Blueprint. This will at least mean you are adopting a well used / contributed to framework which will minimise the cross browser inconsistencies that you are unaware of.
The CSS reset idea is a good one if you are just starting out but will hide differences between browsers that may confuse you later.
The best doctype to use now is <!DOCTYPE html> which puts all browsers into standards mode.
Hello every one i had created a website using dreamweaver in windows7 which worked good in my system.I opened the same html site in another system with operating system windows xp and even in windows 7, but all the alignments of images ,textfields ,buttons and header image,content etc everything has been changed.what might be the problem.Can any one help me in solving this problem.Your answer will be most precious thing to me.Thanks to every one whose going to spend time on reading this question.
Without knowing more details it's hard to properly answer your question. Going to take a shot in the dark about a common issue.
If you did it in Dreamweaver you probably used its interface to drag and drop div elements around to place them in exactly the right positions. The problem with this method is that DW will use positioning relative to your screen size and it might not show up too well on other resolutions.
The solution to this is to make sure you code your containers correctly and not have a look at DW's CSS to fix it.
Without the HTML of your page (post it in pastebin and link it here), can't give a better answer.
Make sure you VALIDATE your code. In my experience using dreaweaver, the doctype declaration and the order of the tags can affect image positioning.
That was because you used different browser. In using Dreamweaver, try to not leave default values. For better debug you should code it with HTML and CSS. Those are not programming languages because they don't need exactly programming knownledge.
A really good HTML lessons at w3c.
A really good CSS lessons at w3c.
A design is a very important part of a web site. But making a layout cross browser compatible is very tough task.
What is the easiest way for this?
You may want to read about browser inconsistencies if you have a reason to be concerned. Other than that, I would not assume you have a problem unless you observe your pages being rendered differently across browsers. You should follow ANeves' advice and design in a browser other than IE and then test your pages as you develop.
You can use the tools located here in an article entitled "Cross-Browser Testing: A Detailed Review Of Tools And Services" to test that your pages in fact function correctly in different browsers.
The way I do it is by writing it and testing in Firefox, and each change I make I run it in IE. A lot of the times it will be different, but if you keep the changes small and isolate them then each one should be work-aroundable.
After it is completed, I check it in Safari and Chrome, and 99% of the time it's fine.
Also try to avoid tables if you can, learn to use CSS properly and it will save you a lot of time in the future.
I actually think it´s not that big of a problem. A very good starting point: CSS Mastery
Don't recrate the wheel. Try finding a website example that works in all browsers and check out it's code. It might help you out a lot.
For instance, if you want to develop just a layout (header, footer, sidebars, content, containers, menus and things like this)...I sincerely suggest you try different options available online.
For example:
http://matthewjamestaylor.com/blog/ultimate-3-column-holy-grail-pixels.htm
http://layouts.ironmyers.com/
You can find a lot of help for this online. That's only for a LAYOUT. I'm not sure about Visual Effects, I have to fight with each design every time I create a new one.
What works for me is to re-use the things that have worked for me in the past.