Small unscaled SVG rendering blurry and wrong in all browsers - html

I have an SVG that renders completely awfully in all browsers.
There's lots of questions here about fuzzy SVG rendering but all the questions I saw were specific to certain browsers, or involved scaling, or applying transforms, or using SVG filters, or using as a background-image, etc.
This is not upscaled or downscaled, and there are no filters or anything funky going on, just a single path in an <svg> element. It's 24x24px. When I zoom in it looks fine, and it looks great on retina screens.
On the left is the image in Sketch (looks equally good in Illustrator etc). On the right is the image in Chrome, Safari, and Firefox on OS X. Of the 3 icons, the top is normal, middle has transform: rotate(0.1deg) (saw some people had some success with that), and on the bottom it has shape-rendering: crispEdges. They're all cruddy:
Looked bad to varying degrees on a Windows machine, including in IE.
Here's the SVG:
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8" standalone="no"?>
<svg width="24px" height="24px" viewBox="0 0 24 24" version="1.1" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" xmlns:xlink="http://www.w3.org/1999/xlink" xmlns:sketch="http://www.bohemiancoding.com/sketch/ns">
<g id="Production" stroke="none" stroke-width="1" fill="none" fill-rule="evenodd" sketch:type="MSPage">
<g id="Desktop-Web-Feed" sketch:type="MSArtboardGroup" transform="translate(-110.000000, -504.000000)">
<g id="Share" sketch:type="MSLayerGroup" transform="translate(26.000000, 504.000000)">
<g id="Facebook" transform="translate(84.000000, 0.000000)" sketch:type="MSShapeGroup">
<g id="icon-web-feed-fb">
<rect id="Bounds" opacity="0.30626166" x="0" y="0" width="24" height="24"></rect>
<path d="M10,19 L10,12.9000244 L8,12.9000244 L8,10.9108276 L10,10.9108276 L10.0697378,8.28793345 C10.0697378,6.15850696 11.3218994,5 13.1515237,5 C14.02764,5 14.7807229,5.06596481 15,5.09688581 L15,7.32319812 L13.7299787,7.32319812 C12.7377746,7.32319812 12,7.70703125 12,8.53530148 L12,10.9108276 L14.8771973,10.9108276 L14.6080794,12.9000244 L12,12.9000244 L12,19 L9.1929245,19" id="Shape" stroke="#A1A1A1"></path>
</g>
</g>
</g>
</g>
</g>
</svg>
Here are some things I tried that didn't work:
Exporting the SVG from Illustrator with path values rounded to 1 decimal place (wouldn't let me do 0 decimal places) to see if it had something to do with how they fell on pixel boundaries.
Exporting a "larger" (bigger viewbox and path spread out to accommodate it) SVG and scaling it down in the browser. This looked marginally better, but still not good enough.
Playing with the stroke-width - just makes it look bad but in different ways.
Various CSS transforms purported to improve issues like this, + every option for shape-rendering + enlarging image and transform: scaleing it down again.
Strangely, the basic layout of the SVG is simply different in the browser - there should be 2 pixels of space inside the letter, but even with crisp anti-aliasing there's only 1 pixel of space in all browsers.
Is there any way to improve this? Is it something to do with this particular SVG? Or is it just that browsers are really bad at rendering small SVGs?

The results when I try your SVG are not as bad as your screenshot. So I'm not sure why that is. Sketch looks like it may be bumping the geometry to line up with pixel boundaries - not unlike font renderers.
You can significantly improve the look of your icon by thinking about how the outlines of your shape are with respect to pixel boundaries.
If you blow up your icon a bit, and draw grid lines corresponding to a 24x24 pixel rendering, you will see what I mean:
var grid = document.getElementById("grid");
for (var i=1; i<24; i++) {
var line = document.createElementNS("http://www.w3.org/2000/svg", "line");
line.setAttribute("x1", 0);
line.setAttribute("y1", i);
line.setAttribute("x2", 24);
line.setAttribute("y2", i);
grid.appendChild(line);
line = document.createElementNS("http://www.w3.org/2000/svg", "line");
line.setAttribute("x1", i);
line.setAttribute("y1", 0);
line.setAttribute("x2", i);
line.setAttribute("y2", 24);
grid.appendChild(line);
}
<svg id="mysvg" width="240px" height="240px" viewBox="0 0 24 24" version="1.1" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" xmlns:xlink="http://www.w3.org/1999/xlink" xmlns:sketch="http://www.bohemiancoding.com/sketch/ns">
<g id="Production" stroke="none" stroke-width="1" fill="none" fill-rule="evenodd" sketch:type="MSPage">
<g id="Desktop-Web-Feed" sketch:type="MSArtboardGroup" transform="translate(-110.000000, -504.000000)">
<g id="Share" sketch:type="MSLayerGroup" transform="translate(26.000000, 504.000000)">
<g id="Facebook" transform="translate(84.000000, 0.000000)" sketch:type="MSShapeGroup">
<g id="icon-web-feed-fb">
<rect id="Bounds" opacity="0.30626166" x="0" y="0" width="24" height="24"></rect>
<path d="M10,19 L10,12.9000244 L8,12.9000244 L8,10.9108276 L10,10.9108276 L10.0697378,8.28793345 C10.0697378,6.15850696 11.3218994,5 13.1515237,5 C14.02764,5 14.7807229,5.06596481 15,5.09688581 L15,7.32319812 L13.7299787,7.32319812 C12.7377746,7.32319812 12,7.70703125 12,8.53530148 L12,10.9108276 L14.8771973,10.9108276 L14.6080794,12.9000244 L12,12.9000244 L12,19 L9.1929245,19" id="Shape" stroke="#A1A1A1"></path>
</g>
</g>
</g>
</g>
</g>
<g id="grid" fill="none" stroke="#ccd" stroke-width="0.1">
</g>
</svg>
You can see that the lines of your shape are falling exactly halfway between the final pixels. That will result in the worst possible antialiasing. You should consider tweaking your icon design to move the lines so they correspond with pixels better. Turn on grid lines in Sketch and set them up to show the pixel boundaries. And work from there.

Unfortunately you probably aren't going to get a better result at that size. Mostly, it is the size that you're trying to render it at, although the color doesn't help much either - with the low contrast the sub pixel rendering is simply not possible to to well. Although the pixel size is 24x24, you're left with about 10 pixels to render the SVG in. Not many icons are going to look very good at 10px.
One easy way to tell if the issue is with the SVG renderer is to render it at double-size (or larger), then scale it down using a bitmap resampling algorithms (most standard good quality image editors).
Try converting it on iConvert Icons SVG icon converter. First upload the SVG; it will redraw at each size - notice how below 32px it starts getting a bit blurry.
Then, grab the 256x256 image, which looks nice and sharp, and run that through the icon converter. Notice how the results look almost exactly the same - despite the fact that the source is an image, not some downscaled SVG.
With that said, I made a few minor changes to the code (removed some unnecessary transformations, darkened the icon, and made it fill instead of stroke), and I think it helps improve the contrast (and thus, the "sharpness") at small sizes:
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8" standalone="no"?>
<svg width="24px" height="24px" viewBox="0 0 24 24" version="1.1" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" xmlns:xlink="http://www.w3.org/1999/xlink" xmlns:sketch="http://www.bohemiancoding.com/sketch/ns">
<g id="Production" stroke="none" stroke-width="0.8" fill="none" sketch:type="MSPage">
<path d="M10,19 L10,12.9000244 L8,12.9000244 L8,10.9108276 L10,10.9108276 L10.0697378,8.28793345 C10.0697378,6.15850696 11.3218994,5 13.1515237,5 C14.02764,5 14.7807229,5.06596481 15,5.09688581 L15,7.32319812 L13.7299787,7.32319812 C12.7377746,7.32319812 12,7.70703125 12,8.53530148 L12,10.9108276 L14.8771973,10.9108276 L14.6080794,12.9000244 L12,12.9000244 L12,19 L9.1929245,19" id="Shape" fill="#222222"></path>
</g>
</svg>

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SVG Spritesheets using SYMBOL CSS SVG Fragment in CSS as background: url or similar? if not why?

Can we do this?
Use SYMBOL CSS SVG Fragment USE in CSS as background: url or similar?
It seems to me, all other things being equal, SYMBOL use does not work, where G with separate viewbox works. If this cannot be done, why? Is there a better way to do SVG Spritesheets?
SYMBOL has an ID, has a viewBox..am I doing somthing wrong or using symbol inc. viewbox, VS, separate viewbox & g = Does Not Work? oO
Am I doing somthing wrong, or, does the below CSS SVG fragment usage only work with the separate viewbox and G (and not work with symbol with viewbox)?
SYMBOL SVG
<symbol xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" transform="rotate(360)" viewBox="0 0 24 24" id="basket">
<path fill="none" stroke="#626262" stroke-width="2" d="M2 12h20l-2 11H4L2 12zm18-4l-6-7M4 8l6-7M1 8h22v4H1V8zm7 7v5m8-5v5m-4-5v5"></path>
<path fill="rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)" d="M0 0h24v24H0z"></path>
</symbol>
..VS..
G & VIEWBOX SVG
<view id="icon-clock-view" viewBox="0 0 32 32" />
<g id="icon-clock">
<path d="M20.6,23.3L14,16.7V7.9h4v7.2l5.4,5.4L20.6,23.3z M16-0.1c-8.8,0-16,7.2-16,16s7.2,16,16,16s16-7.2,16-16S24.8-0.1,16-0.1z
M16,27.9c-6.6,0-12-5.4-12-12s5.4-12,12-12s12,5.4,12,12S22.6,27.9,16,27.9z"/>
</g>
CSS
.icon-clock {background: url(https://example.com/svg-defs.svg#icon-clock-view) no-repeat;}
.basket {background: url(https://example.com/svg-defs.svg#basket) no-repeat;}
This seems to works great. Using 'name' as example to follow.
Wrap <path>(s) & </path> within <symbol> </symbol> I did not use <g>
Add id="name" to <symbol> e.g. <symbol id="name">
Outside the symbol tags, add a <view> and a <use>. The URL, where the complete file is uploaded to, and view ID will become your SVG Fragment.
<view id="icon-name-view" viewBox="0 1240 16 16" />
<use xlink:href="#icon-name" width="16" height="16" x="0" y="1240" id="name"></use>
Change the viewbox to locate the SVG in the spritesheet, here I'd used Y axis, this particular SVG is located at Y axis 1240. Save the SVG Spritesheet to say, svg-defs.svg.
In your CSS use the SVG spritesheet URL with the Fragment Ident e.g.
background: url(https://example.com/svg/svg-defs.svg#icon-name-view) no-repeat;
To change colours I was using filter, e.g.
filter: invert(80%) sepia(21%) saturate(872%) hue-rotate(44deg) brightness(84%) contrast(91%);
Positioning can be done with the ViewBox's but I also used transform, translate.
transform: translateY (10px);
Hope you find this useful, I hope to write a complete guide and will link it when I do. Thank you.

svg not sharp, but blurry

For whatever reason these svg files, seems blurry, and not 100% sharp in all browsers. These are svg files, and are enclosed within elements that are scaled to pixels, in other words using px and not % - hence no browser bitmap errors.
Any idea as to why this is happening?
This is one of the svg files;
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
<!-- Generator: Adobe Illustrator 19.0.0, SVG Export Plug-In . SVG Version: 6.00 Build 0) -->
<svg version="1.1" id="Layer_1" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" xmlns:xlink="http://www.w3.org/1999/xlink" x="0px" y="0px"
viewBox="0 0 361.5 192.5" style="enable-background:new 0 0 361.5 192.5;" xml:space="preserve">
<style type="text/css">
.st0{fill:none;}
.st1{fill:#FC5500;}
.st2{fill:#FFFFFF;}
.st3{fill:#FB5500;}
</style>
<g>
<path class="st0" d="M-9.4-6.3c126,0,252,0,378,0c0,68.7,0,137.3,0,206c-126,0-252,0-378,0C-9.4,131-9.4,62.4-9.4-6.3z"/>
<path class="st1" d="M-0.2,112.1c0-8,0-15.9,0-24.4c112.3,0,224.3,0,336.7,0c0-29.4,0-58.4,0-87.7c8.4,0,16.4,0,25,0
c0,46.8,0,93.7,0,140.6c-2.4-0.3-2.5-2.5-3.2-4c-3.7-9-10.3-15-19.3-18.5c-15.2-6-31.2-6.7-47.2-5.5c-7.8,0.6-15.6,1.5-23.1,4.1
c-24.8,8.7-33.9,38-18.3,59.2c5.8,7.8,14.5,10.9,23.4,13.4c2,0.6,4.9-0.1,5.6,3.1c-13.9,0-27.9,0-41.8,0
c-8.1-5.7-14.1-13.6-21.4-20.2c-1.7-1.5-3.8-2.8-4.1-5.5c0.5-2.5,2.8-3.1,4.7-3.9c9.5-4.3,14.3-11.9,14.5-22.1
c0.2-10.1-4.8-17.3-13.9-21.8c-8.5-4.2-17.6-5.3-26.7-5.5c-20.8-0.4-41.6-0.1-62.5-0.1c-1.7,0-3.3,0-4.8,0.8
c-1.6,2.3-1.1,4.9-1.1,7.3c0,21.2,0,42.3,0,63.5c0,2.6,0.5,5.4-1.7,7.6c-32,0-64,0-96.1,0c-3.2-6.9-1.5-13.8-0.9-20.2
c3.1-2.6,6-2.3,8.8-2.3c12.7-0.1,25.3,0,38-0.1c7.8-0.1,15.3-1.6,22.2-5.3c17.8-9.6,18.8-33.3,1.7-44.3c-8.9-5.7-19.1-6.7-29.3-6.9
c-19.3-0.3-38.7,0.1-58-0.1C4.6,113.4,2,113.8-0.2,112.1z"/>
<path class="st2" d="M120.6,192.5c0-26.6,0-53.3,0-80.7c29.5,1.5,58.7-2.6,87.6,2.2c13.5,2.2,24.2,9.5,24.9,25.1
c0.6,14.2-6.8,23.1-20.2,27c8.3,8.8,16.5,17.6,24.7,26.4c-11.2,0-22.5,0-33.7,0c-4-1.4-6-5-8.7-7.9c-12.1-13.2-6.6-11-23.7-11.2
c-5.5-0.1-10.9,0-16.4,0c-2,0-4-0.2-6,1c-1.5,3.5-0.5,7.4-0.8,11.1c-0.2,2.4,0.3,5-1.7,7.1C138,192.5,129.3,192.5,120.6,192.5z"/>
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c16.8,0.2,33.7-0.4,50.5,0.6c12.5,0.7,22.4,6.1,22.6,20.9c0.2,14.6-7.3,24.7-22.5,25.3c-28.5,1.2-57.1,0.3-85.9,0.3
c5-6.5,10.1-13.2,15.3-20c19.3,0,38.4,0.1,57.6-0.1c4.4,0,11.3,1.9,11.3-5.3c0.1-7.7-7-5.4-11.6-5.5c-16.1-0.4-32.4,0.3-48.4-0.9
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<path class="st2" d="M279.5,192.5c-31.5-9.3-41.2-22.1-36.9-48.9c2.8-17.6,15-26,31-29.7c18.9-4.4,38-4.4,57-0.2
c15.1,3.4,26.5,11.3,31,27c0,7.6,0,15.2,0,22.9c-2.8,16.5-15.6,27.1-34.6,28.6c-1,0.1-2-0.2-2.9,0.3
C309.1,192.5,294.3,192.5,279.5,192.5z"/>
<path class="st2" d="M77.2,20.7c-17.1,0-33.9,0-51.1,0c0,3.2,0,6.3,0,9.8c20.5,0,41.1,0,62.9,0c-5.3,6.7-9.8,12.4-14.4,18.2
c-16.2,0-32.1,0-48.5,0c0,3.6,0,7,0,10.8c22,0,44.1,0,67.6,0c-5.9,7.7-11,14.5-16,21.1c-26,0-51.6,0-77.6,0C0,53.7,0,27,0,0
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<path class="st1" d="M146.7,192.5c0-6.8,0-13.6,0-20.8c13.2,0,26.1,0,39.7,0c5.6,6.6,11.6,13.7,17.6,20.8
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C180.4,151,163.3,150.8,145.8,150.8z"/>
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</g>
</svg>
If you want your SVG to be at its sharpest, then design it so that its shapes - especially the horizontal and vertical parts of the shapes - are on pixel boundaries.
For example, compare the following two examples:
<svg width="50" height="50">
<rect x="9.5" y="9.5" width="31" height="31"/>
</svg>
<svg width="50" height="50">
<rect x="10" y="10" width="30" height="30"/>
</svg>
Here's what this looks like at 4X enlargement.
Any time your shape passes through the middle of pixels, you will get grey pixels due to the anti-aliasing that 2D renderers use.
The response used a slightly modified code #Paul LeBeau
You can use the SVG attribute - shape-rendering =" crispEdges " to disable browser anti-aliasing.
https://developer.mozilla.org/ru/docs/Web/SVG/Attribute/shape-rendering
crispEdges
Indicates that the user agent shall attempt to emphasize the contrast
between clean edges of artwork over rendering speed and geometric
precision. To achieve crisp edges, the user agent might turn off
anti-aliasing for all lines and curves or possibly just for straight
lines which are close to vertical or horizontal. Also, the user agent
might adjust line positions and line widths to align edges with device
pixels.
<svg width="50" height="50">
<rect x="9.5" y="9.5" width="31" height="31" shape-rendering="crispEdges"/>
</svg>
<svg width="50" height="50">
<rect x="10" y="10" width="30" height="30"/>
</svg>
The image is increased 4 times
No gray pixels are observed.
Update 2019 by comments
There is no universal, 100% solution to the pixelation problem.
Since the rendering depends on the installed operating system, its settings, the video card and which browser is used.
You can use an integrated approach made up of all the answers of this topic:
Use integer svg image coordinate values by answer #Paul LeBeau
If you take a finished image with fractional values, you can process
it with SVG optimizer
Set the integer value of viewBox by answer #AKX
Use the attribute shape-rendering ="crispEdges"
If a design change is possible, avoid contrasting border colors.
For example, use a dark gray color instead of a black and white combination or use shades of gray instead of a pure white background.
I tried the SVG on a page and it doesn't look really blurry to me.
However, you could try editing the viewbox to have an integer size -- i.e. turn viewBox="0 0 361.5 192.5" into viewBox="0 0 362 193" -- that might make a difference.
it might be caused by use of borders and shadows in creation of the svg.
I avoid those myself as they are sometimes blurry.
Shadow if needed can be created as another path with transparency and offset.

Chrome v49 letter-spacing in SVG with transform matrix

Chrome v49 broke letter-spacings in SVG when used in combination with matrix transformation and translations:
Living example: https://jsfiddle.net/75fpn6de/6/
SVG:
<svg height="300px" version="1.1" width="100%" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg">
<g transform="matrix(0.20695652173913043,0,0,0.20695652173913043,0,10.881739130434767)">
<svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" xmlns:xlink="http://www.w3.org/1999/xlink" xmlns:ev="http://www.w3.org/2001/xml-events" version="1.1" viewBox="0 0 2500 2794" width="2500" height="2794">
<g transform="translate(1436.5 1087) rotate(0)">
<text xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" fill="#ed7373" y="237" style="font-family: 'Great Vibes';" font-size="237" letter-spacing="0.1em" text-anchor="middle">Some text</text>
</g>
</svg>
</g>
</svg>
CSS:
#import url(https://fonts.googleapis.com/css?family=Great+Vibes);
Am I doing anything wrong here (like breaking some specs) and Chrome got more "restrictive" or is it a newly introduced bug in Chrome?
FYI: The example is (obviously) only a small part of a bigger SVG which is dynamically generated by the server and I can't just change the nesting and the usage of the transform matrix & translate functions.
I had the very same issue, and even if I couldn't find anything about this issue in the changelog, it seems it has been fixed in Chrome 50.

SVG rectangle with SVG "def" fill, becomes black during re-paint

though it's one of the most corner cases ever, maybe one of you saw that...
for some reason, when you drag an SVG rectangle with fill that is pointed to a SVG def, the whole rectangle becomes black! (something wrong in the browser re-paint I think...)
if someone has a clue for a fix or a workaround, it will be highly appreciated
when dragging the below, it becomes black.
http://jsfiddle.net/d11k5bxg/5/
<div class="content">
<svg width="100%" height="100%">
<defs>
<pattern id="Triangle" width="5" patternUnits="userSpaceOnUse" height="5">
<rect fill-opacity="0.5" width="5" fill="#DDD" height="5"></rect>
<path stroke="#000" stroke-width="0.5" d="M0 5L5 0ZM6 4L4 6ZM-1 1L1 -1Z" stroke-opacity="0.2"></path>
</pattern>
</defs>
<g class="chart-content">
<g class="layer10">
<g class="bar-chart compare_items" transform="translate(0,5)">
<g class="bar-group">
<rect class="bar" height="165" width="120" fill="url(#Triangle)" ></rect>
</g>
</g>
</g>
</g>
</svg>
$("div").draggable({
helper: function (e) {
var draggedElement = $(e.currentTarget).clone(true);
return draggedElement;
}
});
(also opened a Chromium ticket on that: https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=428174)
In general, I suspect that the drag-and-drop API you're using has not been tested on SVG. However, what is happening is definitely very buggy, since the DOM still after the drag looks fine but the graphic doesn't.
The problem seems to stem from the fact that JQuery duplicates the entire SVG during the drag operation. Which means there are temporarily two different patterns with id="triangle" (which is bad). My guess is that the rectangle gets associated with the second instance of that pattern, and then when that instance disappears, it doesn't re-attach to the original pattern
If you're only dragging and dropping within a single SVG, you can probably implement your own drag behaviour, just duplicating the rect and positioning it using SVG attributes, instead of duplicating the entire SVG.
Another workaround would be to separate out all your <defs> content into an SVG that isn't displayed on screen. That way, it wouldn't be duplicated when you drag the visible SVG, and you avoid the duplicated id values.

SVG sprites gap issue

I'm keen to figure out a good system for organising SVG's. This seems really good, basically all my SVGs are in a file call SVGs.svg, which is included with PHP at the top of every page, then I use 'use' to display whichever one I want on the page.
SVGs.svg file:
<svg>
<defs>
<g id="MOlogo">
...
</g>
<g id="icon">
...
</g>
</defs>
HTML to use an SVG:
<svg viewBox="0 0 100 100">
<use xlink:href="#MOlogo"></use>
</svg>
The trouble is, when I include the SVGs.svg file in my page I get a massive gap before the content of my page. Anyone know what might be causing that?
Cheers