Difference between FROM and JOIN tables - mysql

I'm working through the JOIN tutorial on SQL zoo.
Let's say I'm about to execute the code below:
SELECT a.stadium, COUNT(g.matchid)
FROM game a
JOIN goal g
ON g.matchid = a.id
GROUP BY a.stadium
As it happens, it produces the same output as the code below:
SELECT a.stadium, COUNT(g.matchid)
FROM goal g
JOIN game a
ON g.matchid = a.id
GROUP BY a.stadium
So then, when does it matter which table you assign at FROM and which one you assign at JOIN?

When you are using an INNER JOIN like you are here, the order doesn't matter. That is because you are connecting two tables on a common index, so the order in which you use them is up to you. You should pick an order that is most logical to you, and easiest to read. A habit of mine is to put the table I'm selecting from first. In your case, you're selecting information about a stadium, which comes from the game table, so my preference would be to put that first.
In other joins, however, such as LEFT OUTER JOIN and RIGHT OUTER JOIN the order will matter. That is because these joins will select all rows from one table. Consider for example I have a table for Students and a table for Projects. They can exist independently, some students may have an associated project, but not all will.
If I want to get all students and project information while still seeing students without projects, I need a LEFT JOIN:
SELECT s.name, p.project
FROM student s
LEFT JOIN project p ON p.student_id = s.id;
Note here, that the LEFT JOIN refers to the table in the FROM clause, so that means ALL of students were being selected. This also means that p.project will be null for some rows. Order matters here.
If I took the same concept with a RIGHT JOIN, it will select all rows from the table in the join clause. So if I changed the query to this:
SELECT s.name, p.project
FROM student s
RIGHT JOIN project p ON p.student_id = s.id;
This will return all rows from the project table, regardless of whether or not it has a match for students. This means that in some rows, s.name will be null. Similar to the first example, because I've made project the outer joined table, p.project will never be null (assuming it isn't in the original table). In the first example, s.name should never be null.
In the case of outer joins, order will matter. Thankfully, you can think intuitively with LEFT and RIGHT joins. A left join will return all rows in the table to the left of that statement, while a right join returns all rows from the right of that statement. Take this as a rule of thumb, but be careful. You might want to develop a pattern to be consistent with yourself, as I mentioned earlier, so these queries are easier for you to understand later on.

When you only JOIN 2 tables, usually the order does not matter: MySQL scans the tables in the optimal order.
When you scan more than 2 tables, the order could matter:
SELECT ...
FROM a
JOIN b ON ...
JOIN c ON ...
Also, MySQL tries to scan the tables in the fastest way (large tables first). But if a join is slow, it is possible that MySQL is scanning them in a non-optimal order. You can verify this with EXPLAIN. In this case, you can force the join order by adding the STRAIGHT_JOIN keyword.

The order doesn't always matter, I usually just order it in a way that makes sense to someone reading your query.
Sometime order does matter. Try it with LEFT JOIN and RIGHT JOIN.

In this instance you are using an INNER JOIN, if you're expecting a match on a common ID or foreign key, it probably doesn't matter too much.
You would however need to specify the tables the correct way round if you were performing an OUTER JOIN, as not all records in this type of join are guaranteed to match via the same field.

yes, it will matter when you will user another join LEFT JOIN, RIGHT JOIN
currently You are using NATURAL JOIN that is return all tables related data, if JOIN table row not match then it will exclude row from result
If you use LEFT / RIGHT {OUTER} join then result will be different, follow this link for more detail

Related

MySQL Left Join and Right Join Optimization

I've been looking up some documentation about this topic here: https://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.7/en/left-join-optimization.html
But I don't understand the following example:
The join optimizer calculates the order in which to join tables. The table read order forced by LEFT JOIN or STRAIGHT_JOIN helps the join optimizer do its work much more quickly, because there are fewer table permutations to check. This means that if you execute a query of the following type, MySQL does a full scan on b because the LEFT JOIN forces it to be read before d:
SELECT *
FROM a JOIN b LEFT JOIN c ON (c.key=a.key)
LEFT JOIN d ON (d.key=a.key)
WHERE b.key=d.key;
The fix in this case is reverse the order in which a and b are listed in the FROM clause:
SELECT *
FROM b JOIN a LEFT JOIN c ON (c.key=a.key)
LEFT JOIN d ON (d.key=a.key)
WHERE b.key=d.key;
Why does the order make an optimization? Do JOIN and LEFT_JOIN execute in some order?
I suspect the first quote is not quite correct. I have seen LEFT JOIN turned into JOIN and then the tables touched in the 'wrong' order.
Anyway, don't worry about the work the optimizer needs to do. In thousands of slow JOINs, I have identified only one case where the cost of picking the order was important. And it was a case of multiple joins to a single table; yet another drawback of EAV schema. Anyway, there is a simple setting to avoid that problem.
LEFT/RIGHT/plain JOINs are semantically done left-to-right (regardless of the order the optimizer chooses to touch the tables).
If you are concerned about the ordering, you can add parentheses. For example:
FROM (a JOIN b ON ...) JOIN (c JOIN d ON ...) ON ...
If you are using "commajoin" (FROM a,b...), don't. However, its precedence changed long ago. The workaround was to add parens so that the same SQL would work in versions before and after the change.
Don't use LEFT unless you need it to get NULLs for missing 'right' rows. It just confuses readers into thinking that you expect NULLs.
This example is wrong in many ways, and it is not clear to me what it is trying to convey. Apologies for that. I will file a bug with the documentation team.
Some clarifications:
For the given query, the last LEFT JOIN will be converted to an inner join. This is because the WHERE clause, WHERE b.key=d.key, implies that d.key can not be NULL. Hence, any extra rows produced by LEFT JOIN compared to INNER JOIN would be filtered out by the WHERE clause. (The principles of this transformation is described in the paragraph following the given example.)
The ON clause of the first LEFT JOIN, ON (c.key=a.key), makes table c dependent on table a, but not table b. Hence, the only the requirement wrt join order is that table a is processed before table c. The order in which tables a and b are listed in the query, will not change that.
Tables b and d may be processed in any order, both wrt each other and wrt the other tables of the query.
This paragraph seems to recommend LEFT JOIN as a mechanism to reduce number of "table permutations to check". This is not meaningful since changing from INNER JOIN to LEFT JOIN may change the semantics of the query. For this purpose STRAIGHT_JOIN should be used instead.
For most join queries, execution time by far exceeds optimization time. Reducing the number of "table permutations to check" may cause potentially more efficient permutations to not be explored. Hence, LEFT JOIN should not be used unless it is required to get the wanted semantics.

LEFT JOIN or INNER JOIN?

I have the following tables. All fields are NOT NULL.
tb_post
id
account_id
created_at
content
tb_account
id
name
I want to select the latest post along with the name. Should I use INNER JOIN or LEFT JOIN? From my understanding both produce the same results. But which is more correct or faster?
SELECT p.content, a.name
FROM tb_post AS p
[INNER or LEFT] JOIN tb_account AS a
ON a.id = p.account_id
ORDER BY p.created_at DESC
LIMIT 50
A LEFT JOIN is absolutely not faster than an INNER JOIN. In fact, it's slower; by definition, an outer join (LEFT JOIN or RIGHT JOIN) has to do all the work of an INNER JOIN plus the extra work of null-extending the results. It would also be expected to return more rows, further increasing the total execution time simply due to the larger size of the result set.
(And even if a LEFT JOIN were faster in specific situations due to some difficult-to-imagine confluence of factors, it is not functionally equivalent to an INNER JOIN, so you cannot simply go replacing all instances of one with the other!)
Better go for INNER JOIN.
As Per My View The Correct One Is Inner join
because it returns resultset that include only matched elements where Left Join Returns all entries from Left Table. In this case I think Inner join returns the only required amount of data to be proceed.
You have to ask yourself two questions.
1) Is there any chance that at some point in your application lifetime, there will be posts with an empty or invalid account_id?
If not, it doesn't matter.
If yes...
2) Would it be desirable to include posts without an associated account in the result of the query? If yes, use LEFT JOIN, if no, use INNER JOIN.
I personally don't think speed is very relevant: the difference between them is what they do.
They happen to give the same result in your case, but that does not mean they can be interchanged, because choosing the one or the other still tells the other guy that reads your code something.
I tend to think like this:
INNER JOIN - the two tables are basically ONE set, we just need to combine two sources.
LEFT JOIN - the left tables is the source, and optionally we may have additional information (in the right table).
So if I would read your code and see a LEFT JOIN, that's the impression you give me about your data model.

MySQL SELECT from two tables with COUNT

i have two tables as below:
Table 1 "customer" with fields "Cust_id", "first_name", "last_name" (10 customers)
Table 2 "cust_order" with fields "order_id", "cust_id", (26 orders)
I need to display "Cust_id" "first_name" "last_name" "order_id"
to where i need count of order_id group by cust_id like list total number of orders placed by each customer.
I am running below query, however, it is counting all the 26 orders and applying that 26 orders to each of the customer.
SELECT COUNT(order_id), cus.cust_id, cus.first_name, cus.last_name
FROM cust_order, customer cus
GROUP BY cust_id;
Could you please suggest/advice what is wrong in the query?
You issue here is that you have told the database how these two tables are 'connected', or what they should be connected by:
Have a look at this image:
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This effectively allows you to 'join' two tables together, and use a query between them.
so you might want to use something like:
SELECT COUNT(B.order_id), A.cust_id, A.first_name, A.last_name
FROM customer A
LEFT JOIN cust_order B //this is using a left join, but an inner may be appropriate also
ON (A.cust_id= B.Cust_id) //what links them together
GROUP BY A.cust_id; // the group by clause
As per your comment requesting some further info:
Left Join (right joins are almost identical, only the other way around):
The SQL LEFT JOIN returns all rows from the left table, even if there are no matches in the right table. This means that if the ON clause matches 0 (zero) records in right table, the join will still return a row in the result, but with NULL in each column from right table. ~Tutorials Point.
This means that a left join returns all the values from the left table, plus matched values from the right table or NULL in case of no matching join predicate.
LEFT joins will be used in the cases where you wish to retrieve all the data from the table in the left hand side, and only data from the right that match.
Execution Time
While the accepted answer in this case may work well in small datasets, it may however become 'heavy' in larger databases. This is because it was not actually designed for this type of operation.
This was the purpose of Joins to be introduced.
Much work in database-systems has aimed at efficient implementation of joins, because relational systems commonly call for joins, yet face difficulties in optimising their efficient execution. The problem arises because inner joins operate both commutatively and associatively. ~Wikipedia
In practice, this means that the user merely supplies the list of tables for joining and the join conditions to use, and the database system has the task of determining the most efficient way to perform the operation. A query optimizer determines how to execute a query containing joins. So, by allowing the dbms to choose the way your data is queried, you can save a lot of time.
Other Joins/Summary
AN INNER JOIN will return data from both tables where the keys in each table match
A LEFT JOIN or RIGHT JOIN will return all the rows from one table and matching data from the other table.
Use a join when you want to query multiple tables.
Joins are much faster than other ways of querying >=2 tables (speed can be seen much better on larger datasets).
You could try this one:
SELECT COUNT(cus_order.order_id), cus.cust_id, cus.first_name, cus.last_name
FROM cust_order cus_order, customer cus
WHERE cus_order.cust_id = cus.cust_id
GROUP BY cust_id;
Maybe an left join will help you
SELECT COUNT(order_id), cus.cust_id, cus.first_name, cus.last_name ]
FROM customer cus
LEFT JOIN cust_order co
ON (co.cust_id= cus.Cust_id )
GROUP BY cus.cust_id;

Explain which table to choose "FROM" in a JOIN statement

I'm new to SQL and am having trouble understanding why there's a FROM keyword in a JOIN statement if I use dot notation to select the tables.columns that I want. Does it matter which table I choose out of the two? I didn't see any explanation for this in w3schools definition on which table is the FROM table. In the example below, how do I know which table to choose for the FROM? Since I essentially already selected which table.column to select, can it be either?
For example:
SELECT Customers.CustomerName, Orders.OrderID
FROM Customers
INNER JOIN Orders
ON Customers.CustomerID=Orders.CustomerID
ORDER BY Customers.CustomerName;
The order doesn't matter in an INNER JOIN.
However, it does matter in LEFT JOIN and RIGHT JOIN. In a LEFT JOIN, the table in the FROM clause is the primary table; the result will contain every row selected from this table, while rows named in the LEFT JOIN table can be missing (these columns will be NULL in the result). RIGHT JOIN is similar but the reverse: rows can be missing in the table named in FROM.
For instance, if you change your query to use LEFT JOIN, you'll see customers with no orders. But if you swapped the order of the tables and used a LEFT JOIN, you wouldn't see these customers. You would see orders with no customer (although such rows probably shouldn't exist).
The from statement refers to the join not the table. The join of table will create a set from which you will be selecting columns.
For an inner join it does not matter which table is in the from clause and which is in the join clause.
For outer joins it of course does matter, as the table in the outer join is allowed to have "missing" records.
It does not matter for inner joins: the optimizer will figure out the proper sequence of reading the tables, regardless of your choice for the ordering.
For directional outer joins, it does matter, because these are not symmetric. You choose the table in which you want to keep all rows for the first FROM table in a left outer join; for the right outer join it is the other way around.
For full outer joins it does not matter again, because the tables in full outer joins are used symmetrically to each other.
In situations when ordering does not matter you pick the order to be "natural" to the reader of your SQL statement, whatever that means for your model. SQL queries very quickly become rather hard to read, so the proper ordering of your tables is important for human readers of your queries.
Well in your current example the from operator can be applied on both tables.
SELECT Customers.CustomerName, Orders.OrderID
FROM Customers,Orders
WHERE Customers.CustomerID=Orders.CustomerID
ORDER BY Customers.CustomerName;
->Will work like your code
The comma will join the two tables.
From just means which table you are retrieving data from.
In your example, you joined the two tables using different syntax.
it could also have been :
SELECT Customers.CustomerName, Orders.OrderID
FROM Orders
INNER JOIN Customers
ON Customers.CustomerID=Orders.CustomerID
ORDER BY Customers.CustomerName;
all the code written will generate same results

In what order are MySQL JOINs evaluated?

I have the following query:
SELECT c.*
FROM companies AS c
JOIN users AS u USING(companyid)
JOIN jobs AS j USING(userid)
JOIN useraccounts AS us USING(userid)
WHERE j.jobid = 123;
I have the following questions:
Is the USING syntax synonymous with ON syntax?
Are these joins evaluated left to right? In other words, does this query say: x = companies JOIN users; y = x JOIN jobs; z = y JOIN useraccounts;
If the answer to question 2 is yes, is it safe to assume that the companies table has companyid, userid and jobid columns?
I don't understand how the WHERE clause can be used to pick rows on the companies table when it is referring to the alias "j"
Any help would be appreciated!
USING (fieldname) is a shorthand way of saying ON table1.fieldname = table2.fieldname.
SQL doesn't define the 'order' in which JOINS are done because it is not the nature of the language. Obviously an order has to be specified in the statement, but an INNER JOIN can be considered commutative: you can list them in any order and you will get the same results.
That said, when constructing a SELECT ... JOIN, particularly one that includes LEFT JOINs, I've found it makes sense to regard the third JOIN as joining the new table to the results of the first JOIN, the fourth JOIN as joining the results of the second JOIN, and so on.
More rarely, the specified order can influence the behaviour of the query optimizer, due to the way it influences the heuristics.
No. The way the query is assembled, it requires that companies and users both have a companyid, jobs has a userid and a jobid and useraccounts has a userid. However, only one of companies or user needs a userid for the JOIN to work.
The WHERE clause is filtering the whole result -- i.e. all JOINed columns -- using a column provided by the jobs table.
I can't answer the bit about the USING syntax. That's weird. I've never seen it before, having always used an ON clause instead.
But what I can tell you is that the order of JOIN operations is determined dynamically by the query optimizer when it constructs its query plan, based on a system of optimization heuristics, some of which are:
Is the JOIN performed on a primary key field? If so, this gets high priority in the query plan.
Is the JOIN performed on a foreign key field? This also gets high priority.
Does an index exist on the joined field? If so, bump the priority.
Is a JOIN operation performed on a field in WHERE clause? Can the WHERE clause expression be evaluated by examining the index (rather than by performing a table scan)? This is a major optimization opportunity, so it gets a major priority bump.
What is the cardinality of the joined column? Columns with high cardinality give the optimizer more opportunities to discriminate against false matches (those that don't satisfy the WHERE clause or the ON clause), so high-cardinality joins are usually processed before low-cardinality joins.
How many actual rows are in the joined table? Joining against a table with only 100 values is going to create less of a data explosion than joining against a table with ten million rows.
Anyhow... the point is... there are a LOT of variables that go into the query execution plan. If you want to see how MySQL optimizes its queries, use the EXPLAIN syntax.
And here's a good article to read:
http://www.informit.com/articles/article.aspx?p=377652
ON EDIT:
To answer your 4th question: You aren't querying the "companies" table. You're querying the joined cross-product of ALL four tables in your FROM and USING clauses.
The "j.jobid" alias is just the fully-qualified name of one of the columns in that joined collection of tables.
In MySQL, it's often interesting to ask the query optimizer what it plans to do, with:
EXPLAIN SELECT [...]
See "7.2.1 Optimizing Queries with EXPLAIN"
Here is a more detailed answer on JOIN precedence. In your case, the JOINs are all commutative. Let's try one where they aren't.
Build schema:
CREATE TABLE users (
name text
);
CREATE TABLE orders (
order_id text,
user_name text
);
CREATE TABLE shipments (
order_id text,
fulfiller text
);
Add data:
INSERT INTO users VALUES ('Bob'), ('Mary');
INSERT INTO orders VALUES ('order1', 'Bob');
INSERT INTO shipments VALUES ('order1', 'Fulfilling Mary');
Run query:
SELECT *
FROM users
LEFT OUTER JOIN orders
ON orders.user_name = users.name
JOIN shipments
ON shipments.order_id = orders.order_id
Result:
Only the Bob row is returned
Analysis:
In this query the LEFT OUTER JOIN was evaluated first and the JOIN was evaluated on the composite result of the LEFT OUTER JOIN.
Second query:
SELECT *
FROM users
LEFT OUTER JOIN (
orders
JOIN shipments
ON shipments.order_id = orders.order_id)
ON orders.user_name = users.name
Result:
One row for Bob (with the fulfillment data) and one row for Mary with NULLs for fulfillment data.
Analysis:
The parenthesis changed the evaluation order.
Further MySQL documentation is at https://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.5/en/nested-join-optimization.html
SEE http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/join.html
AND start reading here:
Join Processing Changes in MySQL 5.0.12
Beginning with MySQL 5.0.12, natural joins and joins with USING, including outer join variants, are processed according to the SQL:2003 standard. The goal was to align the syntax and semantics of MySQL with respect to NATURAL JOIN and JOIN ... USING according to SQL:2003. However, these changes in join processing can result in different output columns for some joins. Also, some queries that appeared to work correctly in older versions must be rewritten to comply with the standard.
These changes have five main aspects:
The way that MySQL determines the result columns of NATURAL or USING join operations (and thus the result of the entire FROM clause).
Expansion of SELECT * and SELECT tbl_name.* into a list of selected columns.
Resolution of column names in NATURAL or USING joins.
Transformation of NATURAL or USING joins into JOIN ... ON.
Resolution of column names in the ON condition of a JOIN ... ON.
Im not sure about the ON vs USING part (though this website says they are the same)
As for the ordering question, its entirely implementation (and probably query) specific. MYSQL most likely picks an order when compiling the request. If you do want to enforce a particular order you would have to 'nest' your queries:
SELECT c.*
FROM companies AS c
JOIN (SELECT * FROM users AS u
JOIN (SELECT * FROM jobs AS j USING(userid)
JOIN useraccounts AS us USING(userid)
WHERE j.jobid = 123)
)
as for part 4: the where clause limits what rows from the jobs table are eligible to be JOINed on. So if there are rows which would join due to the matching userids but don't have the correct jobid then they will be omitted.
1) Using is not exactly the same as on, but it is short hand where both tables have a column with the same name you are joining on... see: http://www.java2s.com/Tutorial/MySQL/0100__Table-Join/ThekeywordUSINGcanbeusedasareplacementfortheONkeywordduringthetableJoins.htm
It is more difficult to read in my opinion, so I'd go spelling out the joins.
3) It is not clear from this query, but I would guess it does not.
2) Assuming you are joining through the other tables (not all directly on companyies) the order in this query does matter... see comparisons below:
Origional:
SELECT c.*
FROM companies AS c
JOIN users AS u USING(companyid)
JOIN jobs AS j USING(userid)
JOIN useraccounts AS us USING(userid)
WHERE j.jobid = 123
What I think it is likely suggesting:
SELECT c.*
FROM companies AS c
JOIN users AS u on u.companyid = c.companyid
JOIN jobs AS j on j.userid = u.userid
JOIN useraccounts AS us on us.userid = u.userid
WHERE j.jobid = 123
You could switch you lines joining jobs & usersaccounts here.
What it would look like if everything joined on company:
SELECT c.*
FROM companies AS c
JOIN users AS u on u.companyid = c.companyid
JOIN jobs AS j on j.userid = c.userid
JOIN useraccounts AS us on us.userid = c.userid
WHERE j.jobid = 123
This doesn't really make logical sense... unless each user has their own company.
4.) The magic of sql is that you can only show certain columns but all of them are their for sorting and filtering...
if you returned
SELECT c.*, j.jobid....
you could clearly see what it was filtering on, but the database server doesn't care if you output a row or not for filtering.