Method 'Parent' of object failed - ms-access

I have MS Access 2013 and I'm trying to make a search form that populates other details when a row inside a subform is selected. I figured out how to get which row is selected, and which column, but now I need to pass that information to the parent form so I can populate the other things on the form.
So on my form's subform, I made an On Click event:
Option Compare Database
Private Sub Form_Click()
MsgBox(Me.Name) ' returns P_pat subform
MsgBox(Me.Parent.Name) ' says 'Parent' failed
But it can never find its parent. I also tried on a few other events but the results were the same. The Access form looks like this:
The highlighted subform is the one I'm trying to work with, and I want it to call the parent so that the parent can populate its other child subform (the one below the highlighted form).
I feel like I slammed into a brick wall that shouldn't be there and my pride hurts.
How do I get the parent?
I know that I can simply set the record ID I selected with a global variable, but I have no way of triggering an update event for the other subform.
Any help or advice?

There doesn't look like there is anything at all wrong with your code. So from research there seem to be three possible solutions that I have found so far:
Make sure there are no special characters in your forms' names
Compact and repair
Create a new blank project and import all of your database into the blank project

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ms access: 'cannot assign value to this object' message, but assigning value works anyway

I have a strange issue with one of my data entry forms. I have a main form from which I open said data entry form using a button. Once the form is open, I can enter a new record (the DE-form is set to allow additions and data entry is set to YES). The first time AFTER opening the main form, and only the very first time (subsequent tries work as intended), when opening the DE-form from the button and attempting to enter new data into the field "Bezeichnung", I get the following error message:
You can't assign a value to this object.
The weird thing comes now. After clicking OK in the dialogue box, in spite of what the message just indicated, the field contains the character I had just entered and allows me to continue adding data without issue.
After adding the new record and confirming, it shows up on my main form, as well as the related table, as intended. I have tried making a new DE-form from scratch but encountered the same thing. The message only pops up the very first time I attempt to enter new data via the DE-form after opening the main form. Opening the DE-form a second or third time while the main form is still up does not result in the same message. Also, it's the same with any of the fields on the DE-form, not just the first one. After the message pops once, it never shows up again until I close the main form. This is the only DE-form in my project that has this issue, I can#t seem to figure out why. Any help is appreciated.
Database Structure:
Details of my data entry form:
*The DE-form consists of a form with a subform on it (white box in the middle). I have other forms where this is neccesary and in order to keep the design consitent I opted to do the same with this one. Both forms have an invisible textbox bound to stoff_id. The DE-subform has Link Master Field and Link Child Field set to stoff_id
Recordsource DE-form main
SELECT chemikalien_tabelle.stoff_id
FROM chemikalien_tabelle;
Recordsource DE-form sub
SELECT chemikalien_tabelle.stoff_id, chemikalien_tabelle.bezeichnung, chemikalien_tabelle.einsatzgebiet, chemikalien_tabelle.kategorie_id
FROM kategorie_tabelle INNER JOIN chemikalien_tabelle ON kategorie_tabelle.kategorie_id = chemikalien_tabelle.kategorie_id;
I found a solution on another site. Apparently, what is causing the message is an invisible textfield bound to the primary key stoff_id (which is AutoValue) of chemikalien_tabelle on the DE-subform. I usually add the primary key somewhere to my forms since it is likely I will need it. I still don't know why this issue popped up though. The original answer I am refering to did not either Foreign Solution. The post is in German, so check it out at your discretion. Removing the textbox fixes the issue but without it I cannot assign a completely new record. I have a number of other data-entry forms that have the same setup, so I am not sure why this only caused issues in this particular case. Maybe someone else has a an idea?

How to populate data in a one to many relationship between two forms when the target form's table has no matching entry?

This is probably a dumb question, but I'm a noob, so forgive me. I have two tables with a one to many relationship based on a OrderNumber. Essentially, I have some order details in one table, including OrderNumber (the one side of the relationship) and I am trying to get a list of LotNumbers in the other table using the OrderNumberLot (the many side) to link them together, as there can be many lot numbers on one order. The primary key in tblOrderDetails is OrderNumber and the primary key in tblLotNumber is LotID (auto number), but the linked field is OrderNumberLot. I made a open form button located on frmOrderDetail to open frmLotNumbers (based on the tblLotNumber). The deal is when frmLotNumber opens the OrderNumberLot field is blank. I understand there is no associated record in tblLotNumber, because I am trying to enter it, but how do I get the OrderNumber from the previous form, frmOrderDetail, with the button to automatically populate in the OrderNumberLot field in frmLotNumbers? I certainly don't want people to have to type it, because they will screw it up as badly as I have this explanation of my question! Thanks in advance for the help.
I agree with June7 on using a subform-approach for your purpose.
If you already have created the form, you could simply drag it from the sidebar onto your mainform and set the "Link Master Fields" and "Link Child Fields" to "OrderNumber" and "OrderNumberLot" - or you just use the subform-wizard and follow its instructions.
Though, some people dislike subforms in general and try to avoid them whenever possible - which might make sense at further stages of development. Instead of subforms, you could then use vba to transfer information from one form to another.
Lets say your button is named bt_openform
Private Sub bt_openform_Click()
'Open the desired form. The option "acFormAdd" forces the form
'to add a new entry whenever loading and requerying.
'As we want to add a new record, we will not use the filter settings
DoCmd.OpenForm "frmLotNumber", , , ,acFormAdd
'Next, store information from the initial form into the newly opened form
'To refer to data from the current form (meaning the one, in which the Sub is triggerd),
'you can use "Me.fieldname" and to refer to another form, use "Forms!formname!fieldname"
Forms!frmLotNumber!OrderNumberLot = Me.OrderNumber
End Sub
You could also do it the other way around and retrieve the information when loading the form:
Private Sub Form_Load()
Me.OrderNumberLot = Forms!frmOrderDetail!OrderNumber
End Sub
To be on the safe site, one might want to nest this function in an if statement, to check whether frmOrderDetail is open or not. This way, you can open your frmLotNumber from different forms without causing troubles
If CurrentProject.AllForms("frmOrderDetail").IsLoaded Then Me.OrderNumberLot = Forms!frmOrderDetail

Editing a Form in MS-Access

I am working with MS-Access and I have created a Form(1) that consists of data from a Query(1) and a subform with data from a Table(2). Along with that, I have the Form(1) in a Split Form View displaying the datasheet at the bottom. The problem I am having is that I want to be able to completely edit everything as well as Add New Records(main problem) in the Form but, Access is not allowing me too. To understand my problem better, I have added some descriptions of the tables and attached some images below:
Table 1: Sales -
Fields: SalesID(AutoNumber), Customer(Short Text), and Date(Date/Time)
Table 2: Transaction -
Fields: TransactionID(AutoNumber), SalesID(Number), Sales(Currency), Cost(Currency), and Profit(Calculated, Currency -> [Sales]-[Cost])
Relationship: Table 1: SalesID(one) -> Table 2: SalesID(many)
Query 1:
Form 1:
I created a form/subform arrangement like you describe. No problem adding new record. However, getting the aggregate query to update requires code to requery the form's data. So in the subform's AfterUpdate event:
Sub Form_AfterUpdate()
Me.Parent.Requery
End Sub
One drawback to this may be that focus will be returned to first record of the main form.
UPDATE: Learned something new - Me.Parent.Recordset.Requery will not return focus to first record.

MS Access 2003/2007 - Passing data through a variable on unbound forms vs. a hidden text box

Ok so I hope the title of the question matches what I about to ask, but here is what I am trying to get at:
So I have an access database that uses a number of unbound forms, and the purpose of the forms are to collect data and save to various tables with VBA click events using SQL statements (INSERT or UPDATE based on whether the ID of the record is present on the form in a hidden text box). When entering a new record (via INSERT), I get the row number with
MyRow = db.openrecordset("SELECT ##Identity")(0) 'thanks David
So you maybe getting the picture. If I have another form that relates to the first form in terms of the record, I just open a recordset and pass that value to another hidden text box.
So my question is, is there a better way to do this regarding passing that value (or just using that value) using a variable instead of this awkward method. So I realize a lot of folks are going to go with the obvious answer of, "Why not just make your forms bound instead of all this code"...and I am sure that is a valid answer, however I inherited this database which was already put together like this, and re-structuring it would be a daunting task.
Any and all advice, or learning resources are greatly appreciated, as they always are!
I use unbound controls on forms for all these kinds of values. The current solution of using an unbound form is sounder than using global or form level variables. If I recall the details correctly while debugging code and you hit the stop button you lose all global or form level variables. Or if the user hits an unhandled error.
Have you looked at OpenArgs?
DoCmd.OpenForm "Form1", , , , , , "Hello"

Use a value from a combo/text box in a file path string

I have a form that I intend to allow users to browse powerpoint presentations through, because there are a lot of different briefs for metrics, which is what I use this database for. So, I already know how to set up everything, just got one little hang up.
If I place a combo box on the form to select from a list of different presentation, can I use that in the file path string (that I have to use to pull the ppt into theobject frame in access.
example:
"C:\Users\Justin\Desktop\" & cmbTitle & ".ppt"
I tried it and it gives me the error message variable not defined. I never defined a control before on in these things, would it be as a string?
I realize that the exact file path much match the entered value. Access 2000-2003/XP
Thanks as always guys!
You need to refer to the field as Me.cmbTitle. As it is written, it looks like you're calling the variable cmbTitle which doesn't exist.
Is the value of cmbTitle some ID/Integer field or is it the actual string value? You may want to use the immediate window to check this. Also, make sure the value of cmbTitle doesn't have any backslashes or spaces (That may require quotes?).
I'm somewhat confused as to what you're trying to do. I will write my answer assuming:
you have a form in an Access database.
on that form is combo box that lists the PowerPoint presentations your users are working with.
the bound column of the combo box lists the filename (without path) of each PPT file.
when the user selects a filename from the combo box, you want to display it in an unbound OLE object frame.
The code for that, assuming the list of PPT files is called cmbTitle, would be in the combo box's AfterUpdate event and would look like this:
Private Sub cmbTitle_AfterUpdate()
Dim strPresentation As String
If IsNull(Me!cmbTitle) Then Exit Sub
strPresentation = "C:\Users\Justin\Desktop\" & Me!cmbTitle & ".ppt"
Me!olePPT.SourceDoc = strPresentation
End Sub
Now, I can't get a test unbound OLE object frame to work with this, but it seems to me to be the right way to do it.
My suspicion is that you're either attempting to set the wrong property, or you've defined your OLE frame wrongly, but I can't offer any more advice on that without knowing more about what you're actually attempting to do, and exactly what line of code is causing the error.