I'm looking for some advice on the best way to store long strings of data from the mySQL experts.
I have a general purpose table which is used to store any kind of data, by which I mean it should be able to hold alphanumeric and numeric data.
Currently, the table structure is simple with an ID and the actual data stored in a single column as follows:
id INT(11)
data VARCHAR(128)
I now have a requirement to store a larger amount of data (up to 500 characters) and am wondering whether the best way would be to simply increase the varchar column size, or whether I should add a new column (a TEXT type column?) for the times I need to store longer strings.
If any experts out there has any advice I'm all ears!
My preferred method would be to simply increase the varchar column, but that's because I'm lazy.
The mySQL version I'm running is 5.0.77.
I should mention the new 500 character requirement will only be for the odd record; most records in the table will be not longer than 50 characters.
I thought I'd be future-proofing by making the column 128. Shows how much I knew!
Generally speaking, this is not a question that has a "correct" answer. There is no "infinite length" text storage type in MySQL. You could use LONGTEXT, but that still has an (absurdly high) upper limit. Yet if you do, you're kicking your DBMS in the teeth for having to deal with that absurd blob of a column for your 50-character text. Not to mention the fact that you hardly do anything with it.
So, most futureproofness(TM) is probably offered by LONGTEXT. But it's also a very bad method of resolving the issue. Honestly, I'd revisit the application requirements. Storing strings that have no "domain" (as in, being well-defined in their application) and arbitrary length is not one of the strengths of RDBMS.
If I'd want to solve this on the "application design" level, I'd use NoSQL key-value store for this (and I'm as anti-NoSQL-hype as they get, so you know it's serious), even though I recognize it's a rather expensive change for such a minor change. But if this is an indication of what your DBMS is eventually going to hold, it might be more prudent to switch now to avoid this same problem hundred times in the future. Data domain is very important in RDBMS, whereas it's explicitly sidelined in non-relational solutions, which seems to be what you're trying to solve here.
Stuck with MySQL? Just increase it to VARCHAR(1000). If you have no requirements for your data, it's irrelevant what you do anyway.
Careful if using text. TEXT data is not stored in the database server’s memory, therefore, whenever you query TEXT data, MySQL has to read from it from the disk, which is much slower in comparison with CHAR and VARCHAR as it cannot make use of indexes.The better way to store long string will be nosql databases
We can use varchar(<maximum_limit>). The maximum limit that we can pass is 65535 bytes.
Note: This maximum length of a VARCHAR is shared among all columns except TEXT/BLOB columns and the character set used.
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I am new to web application developing. I am using php+mysql, so just wanted to check that what is best and safe way to create a database schema.
I have a table with 15 columns, the first column is unique id and remaining all are type of "text" and I am planning to put approx 1-20kb data in each column.
So is it good or bad or it should not be like that? So could anyone please help me on the same?
I am using engine type MYISAM.
The best idea depends on what you're using it for. VARCHAR is faster when the size is reasonable and also that is dependent on hardware and data that you are using. You should almost aways try to store text format messages as TEXT whereas string attributes as VARCHAR.
TEXT columns will not be stored in memory and will have to be read from the disk, which is much slower. Check this reference
Also check Blob Storage in Innodb
Dedicated data types exist for a reason. Some random things you can't do reliably (or can't do at all) with large blobs of text:
Maths
Date calculations
Proper indexes
Ensure a bare minimum of data integrity
Numeric sort
A database is much more than a dumb storage system.
Sometimes its must to use Text type. But try to use varchar instead od text/mediumtext/longtext etc. as often as its possible.
Usung text will have impact of performance.
Queries on text types are slower.
Data with text types will not be cached in memory.
When we creating database for our application, We limited lengths of database columns.
example -
String (200)
int (5)
etc
Is there any effect on Speed or some effect?
First of all, one does not limit the length of a "database". Instead, one does limit the size of columns of tables in a database.
Why do we do this, you ask?
We don't want to waste any space for data that's never going to use it (that's what the varchar, varbinary and the like are for).
It's a best practice because it forces you to think of your data structure BEFORE you actually use it.
The less data there is the faster the processing of the application (that's a tautology).
It makes it easier to validate your data if you know exactely how much space it is allowed to take.
Full text indexes gain greatly when limited in size
One reason I can think of is, When you didn't specify the length of a column data type, the MYsql engine would assume a default length value that may be a lot larger of the length of the actual data that would be stored in that column. So it is always a best practice never to ignore the length property of a column.
Limiting the length of database fields ensures validation of data, you won't get any unexpected data of a length other than what has been specified. Also certain fields cannot be indexed such as LONG so choose appropriately and wisely. With regard to performance the effect is negligible. You need to also think about the data itself, for example storing data in a unicode encoding such as UTF-8 may increase the storage requirements.
I'm looking at a db schema for a project I'm inheriting. There are many instances of binary answers being stored as INT(11) rather than TinyInt(1), which is the way I've normally handled this type or storage.
I've checked the data and everything is either "1" or "0". Is there any reason to or not to change the datatype to TinyInt(1) Unsigned for all of these instances?
Similarly, if something like "last_name" if the current column allows varchar(255), would switching to varchar(100) create any gains? I'm more interested in performance/efficiency than in just limiting data storage at this point.
Thanks,
D.
I would say definitely go ahead with the changes to the boolean columns. (Note: Actually if you're using MySQL 5+, I would use the bit datatype instead of tinyint).
As far as the varchar columns, it doesn't actually make a difference changing 255 to 100 length.
From The SQL Docs:
A column uses one length byte if
values require no more than 255 bytes,
two length bytes if values may require
more than 255 bytes.
So as long as its under 255, you're really not gaining much in terms of memory storage.
That being said, by limiting the size of the names, less data needs to be transferred between your SQL server and your application.
Switching to TINYINT would save you 3 bytes I believe, which doesn't seem like a lot to me, although it's certainly a little more efficient.
I always try and make VARCHAR columns as small as I can get away with. I would personally focus on any gains you can get from that.
The main reason I can think of to avoid any of these changes is if you have so much data that running an ALTER TABLE would cause significant downtime.
Whether any of this will help your app perform better is open to debate. In theory, with VARCHARs, MySQL will only send the actual data over the wire, so if all your last names are 40 bytes long, it's only sending 40 bytes. If the column isn't being used in lookups, it shouldn't really have any impact on your perfomance. There's a couple relevant questions like this one on SO covering this issue already.
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Are there disadvantages to using a generic varchar(255) for all text-based fields?
In MYSQL you can choose a length for the VARCHAR field type. Possible values are 1-255.
But what are its advantages if you use VARCHAR(255) that is the maximum instead of VARCHAR(20)? As far as I know, the size of the entries depends only on the real length of the inserted string.
size (bytes) = length+1
So if you have the word "Example" in a VARCHAR(255) field, it would have 8 bytes. If you have it in a VARCHAR(20) field, it would have 8 bytes, too. What is the difference?
I hope you can help me. Thanks in advance!
Check out: Reference for Varchar
In short there isn't much difference unless you go over the size of 255 in your VARCHAR which will require another byte for the length prefix.
The length indicates more of a constraint on the data stored in the column than anything else. This inherently constrains the MAXIMUM storage size for the column as well. IMHO, the length should make sense with respect to the data. If your storing a Social Security # it makes no sense to set the length to 128 even though it doesn't cost you anything in storage if all you actually store is an SSN.
There are many valid reasons for choosing a value smaller than the maximum that are not related to performance. Setting a size helps indicate the type of data you are storing and also can also act as a last-gasp form of validation.
For instance, if you are storing a UK postcode then you only need 8 characters. Setting this limit helps make clear the type of data you are storing. If you chose 255 characters it would just confuse matters.
I don't know about mySQL but in SQL Server it will let you define fields such that the total number of bytes used is greater than the total number of bytes that can actually be stored in a record. This is a bad thing. Sooner or later you will get a row where the limit is reached and you cannot insert the data.
It is far better to design your database structure to consider row size limits.
Additionally yes, you do not want people to put 200 characters in a field where the maximum value should be 10. If they do, it is almost always bad data.
You say, well I can limit that at the application level. But data does not get into the database just from one application. Sometimes multiple applications use it, sometimes data is imported and sometimes it is fixed manually from the query window (update all the records to add 10% to the price for instance). If any of these other sources of data don't know about the rules you put in your application, you will have bad, useless data in your database. Data integrity must be enforced at the database level (which doesn't stop you from also checking before you try to enter data) or you have no integrity. Plus it has been my experience that people who are too lazy to design their database are often also too lazy to actually put the limits into the application and there is no data integrity check at all.
They have a word for databases with no data integrity - useless.
There is a semantical difference (and I believe that's the only difference): if you try to fill 30 non-space characters into varchar(20), it will produce an error, whereas it will succeed for varchar(255). So it is primarily an additional constraint.
Well, if you want to allow for a larger entry, or limit the entry size perhaps.
For example, you may have first_name as a VARCHAR 20, but perhaps street_address as a VARCHAR 50 since 20 may not be enough space. At the same time, you may want to control how large that value can get.
In other words, you have set a ceiling of how large a particular value can be, in theory to prevent the table (and potentially the index/index entries) from getting too large.
You could just use CHAR which is a fixed width as well, but unlike VARCHAR which can be smaller, CHAR pads the values (although this makes for quicker SQL access.
From a database perspective performance wise I do not believe there is going to be a difference.
However, I think a lot of the decision on the length to use comes down to what you are trying to accomplish and documenting the system to accept just the data that it needs.
When I'm setting up a MySQL table, it asks me to define the name of the column, type of input, and length. My assumption, without having read anything about it, is that it's for minimization. Specify the smallest possible int/smallint/tinyint for your needs, and it will reduce overhead of some sort. If it's all positives, make it unsigned to double your space, etc.
What happens if I just make every field a varchar-200 characters? When/why is this bad, what will I miss out on, and when will any inefficiencies manifest themselves? 100k records?
I think about this every time I set up a DB, but I haven't built anything to scale enough where I've ever had my scheme setup inappropriately, either too "strict/small" or "loose/big". Can someone confirm that I'm making good assumptions about speed and efficiency?
Thanks!
Data types not only optimize storage, but how data is indexed. As your databases get bigger, it will become apparent that it's quicker to search for all the records that have a 1 in an integer field than those that have a "1" in a varchar field. This becomes especially important when you're joining data from more than one table and your database engine is having to do this sort of thing repeatedly. (Daren also rightly points out below that it's important that the types of the fields you're matching on are identical as well.)
The level at which these inefficiencies become an issue depends greatly on your hardware and your application design. We have big enough iron these days that if you're building moderate-scale apps, you may not see an appreciable difference. (Aside from feeling a little bit guilty about your database design!) But establishing good habits on small projects makes the bigger ones easier when they come along.
If you have two columns as varchar and put in the values 10 and 20 and add them, you'll get 1020 instead of 30 which you'd likely expect.
Sure, you could save everything as VARCHAR strings. But you'd be giving up a lot of functionality provided by the database engine.
You should choose the database type that most closely matches the intended use of the column. For example, using DATE or DATETIME to store dates provides you with all sorts of date/time functions that you don't get with basic VARCHAR types.
Likewise, fields used to count things or provide simple unique IDs should be INT or one of its related types. Also bear in mind that an INT occupies only 4 bytes, whereas a 9-digit string uses at least 9 bytes.
For character data, it's wise to use NVARCHAR for internationalized values that users in any locale are going to enter (esp. names and locations). If you know the text is limited to US or internal use only, VARCHAR is safe.