Outlook is adding a right margin I don't want - html

I'm testing a html email is... Outlook, and it's adding a bizarre unwanted margin to the right of my tables.
The two tables should line up side-by-side, 200px each in a 400px parent table (which collapses to 200px on mobile).
The first clue to Outlook's behavior is that the tables are no longer side-by-side. And when the text is selected the added margin is clearly showing:
Any ideas at all? Here's my code - as you can see I've tried pretty much everything I can think of!!!
<table width="400" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="border-collapse:collapse; margin-right: none; witdh: 200px">
<tr style="border-collapse:collapse; margin-right: none; witdh: 400px">
<td style="border-collapse:collapse; margin-right: none; witdh: 400px">
<table width="200" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" align="left" style="border-collapse:collapse; margin-right: none; witdh: 200px;">
<tr style="border-collapse:collapse; margin-right: none; witdh: 200px">
<td style="border-collapse:collapse; margin-right: none; witdh: 200px">Box;</td>
</tr>
</table><table width="200" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" align="left" style="border-collapse:collapse; margin-right: none; witdh: 200px;">
<tr style="border-collapse:collapse; margin-right: none; witdh: 200px">
<td style="border-collapse:collapse; margin-right: none; witdh: 200px">Box;</td>
</tr>
</table>
</td>
</tr>
</table>

That's not how tables work in Outlook, I'm sorry!
You need to include all the data in a single table, or wrap a "super table" around your two tables
<table id="supertable">
<tr>
<td width="200">
<!-- Left-hand table goes here -->
<table>
<tr>
<td>Box;</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Box;</td>
</tr>
</table>
</td>
<td width="200">
<!-- Right-hand table goes here -->
<table>
<tr>
<td>Unsubscribe here...</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Change your details here...</td>
</tr>
</table>
</td>
</tr>
When it comes to Outlook HTML (i.e. turn-of-the-century table-bases monstrosity) it's best to sketch your design on graph paper to work out your "grid". Then, you can use the colspan and rowspan attributes of <td>/<tr> elements to lay things out sensibly.

Found a solution! I was having the same problem - I was following the tip for responsive layouts from Campaign Monitor and they do recommend tables side-by-side. Also, form my experience, I can not get to have <td> behave like rows on iOS Mail (works on Mobile Safari, but no longer works when you send it on an email).
Some more googling and I came to a solution: it involves setting borders and wrapping the content of the <td> on a <p>tag. Check step 3. It works!

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How to horizontally align css table elements?

Trying to replicate this sort of design/structure:
Notice Below the two boxes on one side of the table and the one big one on the other!
How would I achieve this using table css? Here's my current code, which is vertically stacked:
<body>
<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" height="100%" width="100%" id="bodyTable">
<tr>
<td align="center" valign="top">
<table border="0" cellpadding="20" cellspacing="0" width="600" id="emailContainer">
<tr>
<td align="center" valign="top">
<table border="0" cellpadding="20" cellspacing="0" width="100%" id="emailHeader">
<tr>
<td align="center" valign="top">
This is where my body content goes.
</td>
</tr>
</table>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td align="center" valign="top">
<table border="0" cellpadding="20" cellspacing="0" width="100%" id="emailBody">
<tr>
<td align="center" valign="top">
This is where my body content goes.
</td>
</tr>
</table>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td align="center" valign="top">
<table border="0" cellpadding="20" cellspacing="0" width="100%" id="emailFooter">
<tr>
<td align="center" valign="top">
This is where my body content goes.
</td>
</tr>
</table>
</td>
</tr>
</table>
</td>
</tr>
</table>
</body>
Any idea?:
Steven is right, in theory:
the “correct” way to center a table using CSS. Conforming browsers ought to center tables if the left and right margins are equal. The simplest way to accomplish this is to set the left and right margins to “auto.” Thus, one might write in a style sheet:
table
{
margin-left: auto;
margin-right: auto;
}
But the article mentioned in the beginning of this answer gives you all the other way to center a table.
An elegant css cross-browser solution:
This works in both MSIE 6 (Quirks and Standards), Mozilla, Opera and even Netscape 4.x without setting any explicit widths:
div.centered
{
text-align: center;
}
div.centered table
{
margin: 0 auto;
text-align: left;
}
<div class="centered">
<table>
…
</table>
</div>
See this post
edit thats center this is horizontal just change the neccecery css or see here!

html email outlook doubles size of my table

I have this table in my e.mail template and for some reason in outlook 2013 it apears double the height than it is actualy set:
[EDIT now codel looks like this]
<table align="center" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" height="6" width="100%" style="height: 6px; font-size: 6px; background-color:#d8ebf6; line-height= 6px;">
<tr class="preheader" width="100%" style="background-color:#d8ebf6;">
<td style="background-color:#d8ebf6;" align="left"></td><td height="6" width="600" align="center" style="background-color: #00568A;" valign="top"></td><td style="background-color:#d8ebf6;" align="right"></td>
</tr>
</table>
DEMO
Maybe some ideas why this happens or how to solve the issue?
Outlook will ignore height on empty table cells, it's minimum height is about 10px. You can add a non breaking space and this will look empty but satisfy outlooks desire to always be awkward.
So I wanted to share the solution I found which works fine both in outlook and common email inboxes:
Basically I needed to nest table in a table to get this dark blue part in the middle which on lower than 600 resolution takes up 100% width. And I needed to add font size and invisible char ​, because otherwise outlook was making two lines instead of intended one line.
Using previously posted code and adding invisible chars between <td></td> tags and adding font size helped as well, but on mobile(lower than 600 resolution) these invisible chars were leaving small whitespaces from left and right, so dark blue was not taking whole width as wanted.
Code:
<table align="center" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" height="100%" width="100%" class="res_width">
<tr class="preheader" style="background-color:#d8ebf6;">
<td align="center" valign="top">
<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="600" class="res_width">
<tr>
<td valign="middle" height="6" width="600" style="background-color: #00568A; font-size: 6px;">
​
</td>
</tr>
</table>
</td>
</tr>
</table>
DEMO

HTML Email 1px Border Gap Margin showing

I appear to be getting a 1px white box around my tables in outlook 2007,10 and 13. Ive done border collapse and it hasn't fixed the issue? Want three 200px tables aligned horizontally, but because a 1px border is being applied it thinks they're more than 200px, therefore breaking the alignment. Tried everything so any suggestions appreciated.
<table style="border-collapse: collapse;border:none;padding:0px;margin:0px;" width="600" bgcolor="#B6B6B6" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0">
<tr>
<td>
<table style="border-collapse: collapse;border:none;padding:0px;margin:0px;" align="left" bgcolor="#EE070B" width="200" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0">
<tr><td>1</td></tr>
</table>
<table style="border-collapse: collapse;border:none;padding:0px;margin:0px;" align="left" bgcolor="#1527EA" width="200" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0">
<tr><td>2</td></tr>
</table>
<table style="border-collapse: collapse;border:none;padding:0px;margin:0px;" align="left" bgcolor="#ED7407" width="200" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0">
<tr><td>3</td></tr>
</table>
</td>
</tr>
</table>
Outlook adds around 20px around Tables, no matter what. Not sure on the 1px border but try this hack to fool all Outlook versions into thinking your Tables are Table cells: http://labs.actionrocket.co/make_mobile_email_work_in_outlook

HTML - How to apply padding to a horizontal border?

I have a HTML newsletter table, to structure the content I want horizontal borders. Somehow the horizontal borders always have 100% width according to the table width. How can I achieve 20px padding to the left and right of it?
js fiddle
HTML
<table border="1" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" align="center" width="400">
<tr>
<td >Banana
</td>
</tr>
<tr style=" padding: 0 20px 0 20px;">
<td style=" padding: 0 20px 0 20px; border-bottom: 3px solid red;">
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td >Apple
</td>
</tr>
</table>
you can't able to do what you want in current code
you need to do some trick
see this
<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" align="center" width="400">
<tr>
<td >Banana
</td>
</tr>
<tr >
<td> <hr style=" border:0px; margin: 0 20px 0 20px; border-bottom: 3px solid red;">
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td >Apple
</td>
</tr>
</table>
i have used (HR) tag in 2nd table row, this will solve your problem ☺
A border does not take padding into account, but it does with margin. See the CSS Box Modell for reference.
On CSS, there is the cascade. It parses top-dowmn and specific overrides general
There are many ways to achieve what you want (including ways in which we have to change the HTML code). Suppose you want to keep the table layout. You can just set the border-left and border-right of the middle td like this:
tr.hr > td {
border:none;
border-left:20px solid white;
border-right:20px solid white;
background:red;
height:3px;
}
HTML:
<tr> <td> Banana </td> </tr>
<tr class='hr'> <td></td></tr>
<tr> <td> Apple </td> </tr>
Demo.
Note that the color of border-left and border-right should be the same to the background color of your table. (they are all white in the demo).
Please have a look at the HTML email boilerplate.
http://htmlemailboilerplate.com/#f1
Limitations using CSS: http://www.campaignmonitor.com/css/. It solves may issues with ie. spacing amongst others and email clients rendering issues (Gmail, Outlook,Yahoo, ...)
HTML emails need to respect 600px width as it is a default for the preview.
To test the HTML email (if no mail configured on a testing server) you could use http://putsmail.com/ Check also on smart phone as many people tend to read mail on it
You can achieve the effect using a combination of 3 cells where the first and last use spacers and the middle can be a red solid color gif.
<table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0" align="center">
<tr>
<td valign="top" width="20"><img width="20" height="3" src="transparent.gif" alt="" /></td>
<td valign="top" width="560">
<img src="red.gif" width="560" height="3" alt="" />
</td>
<td valign="top" width="20"><img width="20" height="3" src="transparent.gif" alt="" /></td>
</tr>
</table>

Email images not lining up out look 2007/10 vs everything else

I've checked out a few posts, and tried them. Didn't work. This may become a decision and tell clients this is what it is, but I don't want to come to that.
So after testing with Litmus, my main issue is the borders(left and right) vs the top and bottom image not lining up correctly on outbook 2007/10 vs everything else.
<body>
<style type="text/css">
body{
color:#415b7c;
font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;
font-size:12px;
padding:0;
margin:0;
}
table {border-collapse: collapse;}
</style>
<table width="100%" bgcolor="#ffffff">
<tr>
<td><!-- header -->
<table width="600" align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0">
<tr valign="bottom">
<td>
<table width="600" align="left" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" style="border-collapse:collapse;">
<tr><td>
<img src="http://wearehmc.com/emailTemp/VSAC/top.png" width="600" style="display:block">
</td></tr>
</table>
</td>
</tr>
<tr valign="top">
<td>
<table width="600" align="left" bgcolor="#ffffff" style="border-left-style:solid; border-left-color:#3d5b83; border-left-width:2px; border-right-style:solid; border-right-color:#3d5b83; border-right-width:2px; border-collapse: collapse; ">
<tr>
<td>
client log
</td>
<td>
<table cellpadding="10" style="color:#576276;">
<tr>
<td>
<p style="font-weight:bold">
Text
</p>
<p>
text
</p>
</td>
</tr>
</table>
</td>
<td>
client logo
</td>
</tr>
</table>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>
<table width="600" align="left" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0">
<tr>
<td style="color:#ffffff; font-size:22px; font-weight:500; line-height:30px">
<table width="600" align="left" bgcolor="#659acf" cellpadding="20" style="border-left-style:solid; border-collapse: collapse; border-left-color:#3d5b83; border-left-width:2px; border-right-style:solid; border-right-color:#3d5b83; border-right-width:2px; border-collapse:collapse;">
<tr>
<td style="color:#ffffff; font-size:24px; ">
text
</td>
</tr>
</table>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>
<table width="600" align="left" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0">
<tr><td>
<img src="http://wearehmc.com/emailTemp/VSAC/bottom.png" width="600" style="display:block">
</td></tr>
</table>
</td>
</tr>
</table>
</td>
</tr></table>
I've taken out client copy and logos.
As I've said it may come down to a decision of not letting it line up in outlook 2007/10, while letting it work in others.
So if anyone has any suggestions, it would be most helpful.
For outlook (And gmail) You need to specify border="0" on your images.
<img src="/" width="" height="" alt="" border="0" style="display:block">
This should be on every image you use in your email, even spacers. (In fact, especially on spacers, since those will create unwanted empty space without any content)
Also, Outlook has trouble rendering cell-padding and spacing (2007 and 2010 both use microsoft WORD as their rendering engine, I'll let you imagine how great that is to render html-emails).
So you should really be using nested tables instead of cell-padding, with spacer images to create the inner spaces of your sections.
Oh, and I see that all your styling is not inline. This will cause problems with your html-email stability. (gmail will strip every styling that is not inline, as well as the #000000 color on links (use #000001 instead)).
Oh also. Border styles and colors. Those will not display properly everywhere. The solution is again nested tables. With bgcolor and 1 / 2px width spacers to give the illusion of borders.
Hope this all helps. (I know this sounds like a lot of errors in your html-email, but once you get the hang of coding for the worst possible mail clients in mind, it'll become second nature! ;) )