What are people's opinions on semantic HTML for confirmation, error and warnings messages?
Currently I have something simple like:
<div class="message message-warning">
<h3>Message Title</h3>
<p>Message text</p>
</div>
Whereby the message-warning class gets replaced by message-confirmation or message-error if the message is a different type.
Is there a more semantic way of marking this up?
May I suggest <figure>?
Excerpt from HTML5 Doctor (and they, from W3C):
The figure element represents a unit of content, optionally with a caption, that is self-contained, that is typically referenced as a single unit from the main flow of the document, and that can be moved away from the main flow of the document without affecting the document’s meaning.
Lets answer the questions first:
Is such a dialog a single unit? Yes
Is such a dialog self-contained? Yes
Can such a dialog be moved away from the document without affect the document meaning? Yes
Yes, it fits a <figure> perfectly.
And, the <figcaption> is especially good for title bars / headings.
So, I'd go with <figure> without even trying to look further:
<figure id="dialog-box" class="warning">
<figcaption>Message Title</figcaption>
<p>Message text</p>
</figure>
Use the <dialog> element, and call .show() instead of .showModal(), or give it the open attribute if rendering server-side.
As long as it’s not shown modally, it won’t block interactions with other page content.
Old answer (before <dialog> was a thing):
Alerts are one of the semantics that ARIA added to HTML, because there's no straightforward way of doing in "pure" HTML. Hence:
<aside role="alert">
<h2>Message Title<h2>
<p>Message Text</p>
</aside>
I personally like to use <aside> as the element to slap the role on — it's technically not part of the page content, as described by Jeff Lindblom's answer.
Having a "semantic" CSS selector for this is easy enough:
[role="alert"] {
font-size: 2em; /* or what have you */
}
The <figure> idea is interesting, but I don't think it fits here. What it's missing is the actual content to justify use of the tag. According to the spec, <figure> represents a "unit of content" - meaning an image, diagram, code block, etc. that may optionally have a caption for this content (<figcaption>). It would be a stretch to say that the message outside the <figcaption> represents an appropriate unit of content.
We should also be cautious of using <h#> tags in this instance, as the message is secondary content, and should probably not be part of the document outline.
One could argue, under the revised spec, that an <aside> would be appropriate. It's now considered "tangential content" when used outside an <article>.
<strong> would be appropriate for the "title" of the message, since it's a semantically more important part of the message, but not a document header. So the code might look so:
<aside class="warning-or-whatever">
<strong>Message Title</strong>
<p>Message Text</p>
</aside>
One could also argue, since there's nothing specifically created for such a feature, that a good old-fashioned, semantically meaningless <div> might be the best element. I guess it comes down to how "tangential" you feel your messages are.
Thanks,
Jeff
No. There is no element in HTML that denotes a confirmation, error, or warning message.
Technically, the samp element has been defined as “sample output from programs, scripts, etc.” in HTML 4.01 and in HTML 3.2, though originally in HTML 2.0 as “sequence of literal characters, typically rendered in a mono-spaced font” and being somewhat redefined in HTML5 as “(sample) output from a program or computing system”. So its meaning is rather vague, and it’s not used much, so there is no real point in using it. But it might be argued that it is acceptable to use samp markup for any message from a program. It is a text-level element, so you would need to use it separately inside h3 and inside (any) p, more or less breaking the structure.
It might also be said that the messages are quotations from an external source, so they could be wrapped inside blockquote.
The use of h3 vs. some other markup isn’t really a semantic question, but structural: is this a heading for some content at the 3rd level of nesting?
I think the strong element is an appropriate element for such messages.
You could use several strong elements to indicate the importance of the message:
<strong>Login successfully.</strong> <!-- confirmation -->
<strong><strong>Wrong login data.</strong></strong> <!-- warning/error -->
If it’s stand-alone message for which a heading is warranted, use a section element instead of a div. In case of serious errors that apply to the whole page, it should be the first element on the page.
Various variants are possible:
<section class="message message-error">
<h1><strong><strong>Error:</strong> Wrong login data.</strong></h1>
<p>The username and/or password is wrong. Try …</p>
</section>
<section class="message message-error">
<h1>Error</h1>
<p><strong><strong>Wrong login data.</strong></strong></p>
<p>The username and/or password is wrong. Try …</p>
</section>
<section class="message message-error">
<strong><strong>Wrong login data.</strong></strong>
</section>
<section class="message message-error">
<p><strong><strong>Wrong login data.</strong></strong> Try …</p>
</section>
Which one to use depends on the kind of message, if the exact error is know, if additional help text is provided, and if several message could come up at the same time.
Note that you probably don't want to use a heading for messages that apply to a single input element (e.g. when the user didn't fill out a required field or entered wrong content etc.), as these error messages should be in the corresponding label or directly next to the input element.
For accessibility, you should have a look at WAI-ARIA. Maybe aria-live="assertive" might be an appropriate way to mark error messages.
If you want to go semantic, you can use a semantic-web approach by making an ontology for messages and warnings and use RDFa to embed it in your HTML.
Related
My goal is to use the correct H* tag (H1 to H6) in my html5 code.
I read here I shouldn't use <section> at all: "Why you should choose article over section : Browsers’ visual display of headings nested inside elements makes it look as if they are assigning a logical hierarchy to those headings. However, this is purely visual and is not communicated to assistive technologies"
but I feel that isn't true because of the answers to this popular question:
that says "sections in an article are like chapters in a book, articles in a section are like poems in a volume" and I want to use sections for their intended purpose.
The problem is this mdn page says "Important: There are no implementations of the proposed outline algorithm in web browsers nor assistive technology; it was never part of a final W3C specification. Therefore the outline algorithm should not be used to convey document structure to users. Authors are advised to use heading rank (h1-h6) to convey document structure."
The guy from the first link I posted does make a good point about halfway down that page where he says "browsers display different sizes of font depending on how deeply the is nested in <section>s”.
So am I correct in saying I have to correctly match H* tags to depth/nesting to achieve a good outline AND visual styling or is there a different way. eg this would be incorrect:
<body>
<h1> something </h1>
<section>
<h1> section heading for outline </h1>
<article>
<h1>my first news article</h1>
<p>stuff</p>
</article>
</section>
</body>
because screen readers can't properly process <section> for outlining.
and because browsers display different fonts according to level of nesting.
so then would this would be correct?
<body>
<h1> something </h1>
<section>
<h2> section heading for outline </h2>
<article>
<h3>my first news article</h3>
<p>stuff</p>
</article>
</section>
</body>
note: This is my first question I'm posting so please go easy on me if I've made a faux-pas, I'm new here :)
The document outline algorithm based on <h1> has been removed from the spec and actually never worked. In terms of heading levels, your last code example is the correct one.
Why the HTML Outlining Algorithm was removed from the spec – the truth will shock you!
There Is No Document Outline Algorithm
So you should not use it, and your quote holds true.
Authors are advised to use heading rank (h1-h6) to convey document structure.
Correctly using <section>
As to the question of using <section> vs <article>.
You shouldn’t avoid the latter due to styling issues. You already did your research and should stick to your outcome. You’d need to apply some styling yourself, though.
I’d also like to add the ARIA perspective on a page summary:
<article> has role article
An article is not a navigational landmark
and
<section> has role region, which is …
[…] sufficiently important that users will likely want to be able to navigate to the section easily and to have it listed in a summary of the page.
To do so, it is also noted
Authors MUST give each element with role region a brief label
So, let’s put it together
<body>
<h1> something </h1>
<section aria-labelledby="s1-heading">
<h2 id="s1-heading"> section heading for outline </h2>
<article>
<h3>my first news article</h3>
<p>stuff</p>
</article>
</section>
</body>
What's the best HTML5 element to represent a preview or summary of another webpage? I was thinking <abbr>, but is there a better one to represent these?
(I can’t think of a case where the use of abbr would be appropriate; well, unless the preview content is an abbreviation.)
Preview as teaser etc.
If you want to display some content that already exists at some other place, you probably want to use the blockquote element. You may only use blockquote if you aren’t changing anything of the content.
As it’s a sectioning root element, any headings/sections won’t affect your outline.
<blockquote>
<!-- the quoted page -->
<h1>Foo bar page</h1>
<nav>…</nav>
<article></article>
<!-- could of course also use 'iframe' if it’s the whole page + CSS -->
</blockquote>
Also use blockquote when you want to display a screenshot of the content:
<blockquote>
<img src="screenshot.png" alt="Article Foo …" />
</blockquote>
If you need more complex alternative content, you might want to use object instead of img.
If you are not quoting (i.e., the content is on the same site resp. your own content, or you are paraphrasing), you could just go with article.
<article>
<h1>Summary of article Foo</h1>
<p>…</p>
</article>
In that case, headings/sections do affect your outline, which makes sense, as it’s your content (you summarized/paraphrased).
If it’s just a teaser/snippet in a sidebar (or a search result, or a list of posts etc.), you might want to use the bookmark link type to link to the actual content.
Preview, when creating/editing content
I guess it depends on your understanding of the content if a dedicated element is needed in the first place. One could argue that the preview is (part of) the actual content of the page, and it only happens to be published at another page in addition. So the most basic variant would be to use a sectioning element that is appropriate for this content, probably article:
<form><!-- the content edit form --></form>
<article><!-- the preview --></article>
resp. with a more useful outline:
<body>
<h1>Create a new foo</h1>
<form><!-- the content edit form --></form>
<section>
<h1>Preview of your foo</h1>
<article><!-- the preview --></article> <!-- depends on your case; would also be possible to have several sectioning content elements here -->
</section>
</body>
It could make sense to use the figure element here; as it’s a sectioning root, possible headings/sections of the preview content wouldn’t affect the current outline:
<form>
<!-- the content edit form -->
</form>
<figure>
<!-- your preview -->
</figure>
This is what I would recommend:
<body>
<h1>Create a new foo</h1>
<form>
<!-- the content edit form -->
</form>
<section>
<h1>Preview of your foo</h1>
<figure>
<article>
<!-- your preview -->
</article>
<!-- might use other, more or no sectioning elements here; depends on your case -->
</figure>
</section>
</body>
Special cases
samp
In some cases it might be appropriate to use the samp element:
The samp element represents (sample) output from a program or computing system.
Note that samp can only have phrasing content, so you can’t use it for complex content.
output
In some cases it might be appropriate to use the output element:
The output element represents the result of a calculation or user action.
You could even use the for attribute to relate the output (= preview) with the form.
Just like samp, it can only have phrasing content, so it’s not appropriate for complex content.
It sounds like you might have many short previews or summaries of these websites in a single page? In that case, I think there are many ways to express these types of blocks in smaller HTML chunks while giving them additional semantic meaning. So I will give you several options I would try using in HTML5.
The DETAILS element
The details element is new interactive element in HTML5 which shows a text summary and additional hidden text details that the user can see by clicking the summary text. This is usually created by the browser as a piece of title text with a dropdown toggle arrow that reveals hidden content when clicked. This element is typically used as a Javascript-free toggle widget to disclose additional information if the user chooses to view it. What is nice about this new HTML5 element is it will create this nice toggle, open-and-close, text block without the need for any Javascript, and which includes a nice clickable summary "bar" that unfolds with more detail text. Ive added some extra CSS to make it look sexy. (Note: IE1-11 does not support this element, but with the styles Ive added it degrades gracefully and shows summary and div content in one stacked block.)
<details>
<summary style="display:block;margin: 0;padding: .2em;width: 25em;background-color: #ccccccff;box-shadow: 2px 2px 3px #aaa;">© Copyright 2021</summary>
<div style="display:block;margin: 0;padding: .2em;width: 25em;background-color: #efefefff;box-shadow: 2px 2px 3px #aaa;">
<p>Owned by Company ABC. All Rights Reserved.</p>
<p>All content and graphics on this web site are the property of Company ABC.</p>
</div>
</details>
The DEFINITION element
The dfn element represents a piece of definition text when its term is defined in a paragraph. It represents a piece of text that is going to be defined within a sentence. The definition item is usually styled in plain italics. Not as fancy as the details element but tells search engines you are associating a text title with descriptive text. If you want to just drop page previews in plain paragraphs but give their titles more meaning, wrap the titles with this simple piece of HTML. You could also wrap an anchor tag around the dfn element and link to your page you are previewing. This link then has more semantic meaning.
<p>The <dfn id="sun" title="Our Shining Celestial Body">Sun</dfn> is the name of the local star in our solar system.</p>
The DESCRIPTION LIST element
If your page previews need something more formal, as in a listing, try a description list. The dl element is a description list and contains groups of description terms (dt) and descriptions details (dd). The description list is often used to show a page's glossary, lexicon, or dictionary of terms in key-value pairs. A description list is great if you have many of these previews. It really holds a lot of semantic meaning and allows you to have a description TERM and its DESCRIPTION in separate places. Again, this has more semantic meaning than plain HTML paragraphs. Ive added some CSS to this which you will see when you paste this in an HTML page and view it. Each description is in a white block with a border. You might add your page preview titles as terms, and your text preview in the description element.
<dl>
<div style="margin: .2em;padding: 0 .5em;border: 1px solid #999;">
<dt id="fruit1">Apple</dt>
<dd nowrap="no" role="definition" aria-labelledby="fruit1">A popular fruit that grows on trees</dd>
</div>
<div style="margin: .2em;padding: 0 .5em;border: 1px solid #999;">
<dt id="fruit2">Strawberry</dt>
<dd nowrap="no" role="definition" aria-labelledby="fruit2">A popular berry that grows low to the ground</dd>
</div>
</dl>
I'm trying to find the best way to code a search result page in HTML5.
Here's how I've done it.
<section>
<header>
<h2>Results for <kbd>this terms</kbd></h2>
</header>
<!-- list of results -->
<ol>
<!-- First result -->
<li>
<article>
<header>
<h3>
<cite>
This is a result
</cite>
</h3>
</header>
<blockquote cite="http://addressofthepage.ch/">
<p>So, setting about it as methodically as men might smoke out a wasps' nest, the Martians spread this strange stifling vapour over the Londonward country. The horns of the crescent slowly moved apart, until at last they formed a line from Hanwell to Coombe and Malden. All night through their destructive tubes advanced.</p>
<footer>
<p>Published <time datetime="2010-07-15T13:15:05-02:00">MMMM DDth, YYYY</time> at the <abbr title="Uniform Resource Locator">URL</abbr> http://addressofthepage.ch/</p>
</footer>
</blockquote>
</article>
</li>
<!-- Second result ... and so on -->
<li>...</li>
</ol>
</section>
The main questions are
<header> mentions the search terms. What is the best tag to use? <kbd>?
Is the <cite> tag related to the <blockquote> if it is positioned in the <header>?
Is not better to put the <cite> in blockquote > footer like <p>[...] at the URL <cite>http://addressofthepage.ch/</cite></p>
All this is also available on a Gist
is meant as a way to show keys. That's why many sites style that tag as a keyboard key. You're not showing keys, you're showing a search term. A <span> should be fine. Maybe add a class like <span class="search-term">.
Semantically speaking, no, it wouldn't be related as it's not a child.
The "correct" HTML for using cite and blockquote would be:
A quote here...
— Foo Bar
gist here of the HTML: https://gist.github.com/OscarGodson/5a3e87ce895b3af952de (stackoverflow appears to have issues rendering HTML when in code tags?!)
Notice the cite and footer tags. As per spec:
The blockquote element represents content that is quoted from another
source, optionally with a citation which must be within a footer or
cite element, and optionally with in-line changes such as annotations
and abbreviations. Content inside a blockquote other than citations
and in-line changes must be quoted from another source, whose address,
if it has one, may be cited in the cite attribute.
Source: http://www.w3.org/html/wg/drafts/html/master/grouping-content.html#the-blockquote-element
The main thing to remember, and coming from someone who's been doing this for a long, long time, semantics matter, but don't overthink it. Sure, the blockquote has some strict rules about how to properly use it, but browsers will handle whatever you give it fine. Do what makes sense for your app and that should be semantic enough 90% of the time as long as everything isn't a span and div. If you over analyze this stuff you'll spend more time deciding which tag to use instead of just getting stuff done ;)
Is placing the address tag within a section like this following the html5 guidelines?
<section id="address">
<header>
<h3><span style="color: #f3d351;">Call Us: 1-800-576-7449 </span></h3>
</header>
<address>
<p>4660 N. University Drive<br /> Lauderhill, FL 33351 United States</p>
</address>
</section>
The use cases of some of the new HTML5 elements may still be open to interpretation, as W3C typically just has "suggested use cases" or something similar for them.
The <section> tag's W3C wiki page does, however, have a specific use case applicable to you:
A Web site's home page could be split into sections for an introduction, news items, and contact information.
Obviously the <address> element should contain some sort of contact infromation.
Given your markup and the information on the linked wiki pages, I would say the placement of <address> inside of <section> is not only allowed, but one of the encouraged use cases.
I'm not entirely sure the <p> tag inside of the <address> element is necessary, or completely semantically correct.
That's fine except for the fact that the address element is not for arbitrary postal addresses: address element so you could simply use p instead.
You can use an address tag inside of a section tag, there is nothing wrong with that. However, you cannot place a section tag inside of an address tag. This MDN article on address has more information.
The one caveat is that you are using section as a generic container. It is suggested to use a div if you are going to just be using the element as a placeholder.
Is use section id="contacts" semantically correct in place of div id="contacts"?
On a webpage I need to add a multiple Contacts info of the company. Generally I use div id="contacts But if I want to use HTML 5 tag as much as possible is it appropriate to use section id="contacts" in this case.
Or no benefit to use Section element here.
For example to wrap multiple address like this
<p>
<b>Address 1:</b><br>
9900 Corporate Campus Dr., Suite 3000<br>
Louisville, KY 40223 <br>
<b>Phone:</b> (502) 657-6033<br>
<b>Fax: </b>(425) 936-7329<br>
</p>
<p>
<b>Address 2:</b><br>
9900 Corporate Campus Dr., Suite 3000<br>
Louisville, KY 40223 <br>
<b>Phone:</b> (502) 657-6033<br>
<b>Fax: </b>(425) 936-7329<br>
The address element must not be used
to represent arbitrary addresses (e.g.
postal addresses), unless those
addresses are in fact the relevant
contact information.
So in your case—if I understand correctly this is the company's website—you should use <address>.
In HTML5, using a <div> versus using a <section> is all based on the content it will contain. If the content is contextually relevant to the page, you would use a <section>. However, if the only reason you are encapsulating information within the tag is to apply style via CSS and nothing more, you would use a <div>.
Don't get confused here; You can still apply style to a <section>.
EDIT: It seems that there is some confusion about <section> vs <div>.
Note: The section element is not a generic container element. When an
element is needed for styling purposes or as a convenience for
scripting, authors are encouraged to use the div element instead. A
general rule is that the section element is appropriate only if the
element's contents would be listed explicitly in the document's
outline.
Source: http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec-author-view/the-section-element.html#the-section-element
In your case, you're providing contextually relevant information, so you would use a <section> tag. However, as #Knu pointed out, if the address is relevant contact information, you would actually wrap the address in the <address> tag.
You might do something like this:
<section id="contact">
<p>For more information, contact us at one of the following addresses:</p>
<address>
<p>9900 Corporate Campus Dr., Suite 3000<br/>Louisville, KY 40223<br/><strong>Phone:</strong> (502) 657-6033<br/><strong>Fax: </strong>(425) 936-7329</p>
</address>
<address>
<p>9910 Corporate Campus Dr., Suite 5000<br/>Louisville, KY 40223<br/><strong>Phone:</strong> (502) 657-6035<br/><strong>Fax: </strong>(425) 936-7339</p>
</address>
</section>
A single example of using a <div> instead of a <section> might be if the content was a container for many <section>'s.
<div id="something">
<section id="one">
<p>This is some content.</p>
</section>
<section id="two">
<p>This is some other content.</p>
</section>
</div>
You can use the section to wrap multiple address only if you have a heading like "Contact Information" or something like that. If you don't have a (natural)heading, then a generic block-level element(div) must be used.
Also, each address can be wrapped inside an address tag. (I'm not too sure about it though as I feel address is meant only for marking up email addresses)
PS: I see that you have wrongly used b here. It should be span instead. Also, an address is not a paragraph. So, p shouldn't be used as well.
For that matter I would recommend you to take a look at microdata at schema.org. You can add specific semantic tags for every part of the address, your company and everything else.
This is a specific example and tutorial on how to us microdata:
http://www.htmlgoodies.com/html5/Web-Developer-Tutorial-HTML5-Microdata-3920016.htm#fbid=7JjItyF1dhi
This ones are the vocabulary you'll probably need:
http://schema.org/Organization
http://schema.org/PostalAddress
I agree with #knu and would recommend using multiple address elements as these are not arbitrary addresses.
I would also use the vcard format.
Also see Marking up a postal address with HTML.