As pointed out in the title, my question is very simple: is there any way that I can achieve clicking on a header (title) and expand (and collapse) a text associated with it, without using JavaScript nor jQuery? Is there any browser compatible way of doing this (IE 6+ proof)?
I've made a very simple HTML+CSS site for a conference, and I would like to use JS only if necessary. So, I'm just asking if I can do it sticking only to HMTL/CSS, in a compatible way, of course.
The few solutions I've found are old or incompatible with some browser versions.
IE6-proof pure CSS solution?
NO
[Leave the dead rest in their graves, don't try to make them run a marathon. That's what you're doing when you're asking for IE6 to do things like this.]
IE7/8?
Yes, there is one solution (the principle is the same one used in this older demo of mine), but it is not persistent (meaning that if you click anywhere else on the page, your expanded content will collapse) and it behaves a bit weird in IE7 (meaning that you have to hover off the clicked element after you click it in order to see your content expanding).
IE9+ and the other browsers?
YES! Also persistent. Same principle as the one I used here.
JavaScript/ jQuery method?
Yes! See this: a jQuery version of the same demo.
You can do simple Hover dropdown menus with just HTML & CSS which are supported cross browser:
http://jsfiddle.net/fkS2z/
You can improve on this with fades or slidedowns with CSS transitions which are not supported in lower version of IE:
http://jsfiddle.net/N9fDy/1/
Not so much with clicking though.
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I have a Windows 7 with service pack 1, and Internet Explorer 10. And I have my site, http://www.gfcf14greendream.com/ . It looks great on Chrome, Firefox and Safari, but not in Internet Explorer. For starters, I wanted to test how my site looks using IETester, and it's a mess (please compare by clicking the link above):
The thing is, I think that maybe the issue could be that IE8 doesn't load well from <object> tags, is that it? I use three object tags to load the three white parts: header, vertical menu, and "site log" (you can see them here: http://www.gfcf14greendream.com/header.html , http://www.gfcf14greendream.com/verticalmenu.html , http://www.gfcf14greendream.com/thesitelog.html)
To load those three sites, I use the following code:
This one for the header, <object type="text/html" data="http://www.gfcf14greendream.com/header.html" width="100%" height=185></object>
This one for the menu, <object type="text/html" data="http://www.gfcf14greendream.com/verticalmenu.html" height=484 width=100%></object>
And this one for the log, <center><object type="text/html" data="http://www.gfcf14greendream.com/thesitelog.html" height=600 width="90%"></object></center>
Please let me know if anyone has any ideas concerning this "mess". Thank you!!
This isn't a real answer (It's a quick and careless answer at best, so don't take it too seriously)
But I just thought I'd mention that the the W3C markup validator might be useful to you if you don't already know about it.. It catches bad markup practices or errors on your page and can give you more information on how to fix them. At the time of writing, your front page alone has 10 errors and 3 warnings on it. Maybe this could point you in the right direction?
upon a quick skim of your page you don't seem to be utilising CSS properly. That is to say, that I see you are using css but you have elements on your page (use of <center> HTML tags, inline styling and things like that) that go against the grain of why CSS was invented.
If you haven't already seen the CSS zen garden, take a quick read/look at it. It should set you right on why we use CSS instead of tables and alignment tags.
(People sometimes don't get this immediately, but , click the links on the right in the zen garden. The same HTML and page content are completely restyled using one html file and seperate CSS sheets)
Good luck!
Edit:
Oh, I almost forgot to mention that internet explorer 8 doesn't have much (if at all) HTML5 compatibility. If you want to develop websites and web apps in HTML5 you'll be hard pressed to serve your I.E 8 visitors and may end up spending more time fixing bugs than you are developing the content.
Some developers are already boycotting I.E 8 entirely to usher in the new era of the web with HTML5 and CSS 3. There are a few js compatibility libraries out there (like excanvas for the new <canvas> element for example) but they don't work flawlessly and you will eventually have to draw the line somewhere. (lol. canvas.. draw line.. get it?) That being said, i did find this article and this may be useful to you:
turn-on-html5-in-ie8-or-lower
Not every website requires HTML5 and it's new technologies, but if you plan on using it for things like the <canvas> tag, Id suggest (from my own personal opinion) you forget about I.E 8 and concentrate on browsers that utilise it.
Remember that you can make checks in your HTML to see what browser version your visitor is using.
You can see if they are using an incompatible browser, and if so, you can then alert them that their software is out of date and suggest to them alternatives (such as chrome or firefox)
There's a bunch of tutorials on-line about this, here's the first decent looking one I found in a quick Google search this article covers using this technique for seperate CSS sheets but there are others that talk about the problem I mentioned in more depth and I'm sure you can probably figure out how to do it anyway once you read the article.
Either way, I'd say you've got a little bit of reading ahead of you to understand why your humble website does not work in an increasingly obsolete browser.
Again, good luck to you in your future endeavours.
Edit was too harsh:
Having looked a the site I would start by suggesting in future you think about design from a users perspective - the colour scheme you're using isn't very friendly on the eye, the red text against the green is particular troublesome to people with red/green color blindness, you also should consider how your content is presented.
End Edit:
However, regarding your IE issues.
First things first, with any work is getting a firm plan of what you hope to achieve and setting a good groundwork before starting. With HTML that means leveling the playing field with regard to browser quirks, and to achieve that, you use a reset css file.
This ensures that all browsers (as close as possible) behave in more or less the same way, regarding padding, spacing, line heights etc, and can go along way to prevent these sort of problems from happening, and allow you to achieve consitancy.
There's more info at the link below.
http://meyerweb.com/eric/tools/css/reset/
Secondly your HTML version - your declaring HTML5 but then use HTML4 values and attributes - basically your site (as pointed out above) is not valid markup.
Is it possible to style the option elements of a select list/dropdown beyond background and font? I'm specifically looking to add some padding/margins so the list isn't as cramped.
Not possible if you want broad browser support. At least IE doesn't support it. There's then no other option than to mimic and progressively enhance the dropdown with <ul><li> and a good shot of JavaScript. You can get here some ideas what's possible with JS (jQuery actually) based dropdowns.
#Alex: we were in the same predicament as you seem to be. We too wanted to control the UI of the dropdown. Unfortunately as others have already mentioned, you have no option with the system dropdown if you want to have cross-browser compatibility also.
so we came up with our own jQuery plugin which works like a system dropdown for most features. It also supports themeing as well as flexibility to provide customized list items by way of templates. You can see the running code samples from the following URLs listed and learn more about it. We are sure you will find it useful.
Sample and documentation - india.assigninfo.com/assignlabs/jaldropdown
Cascading dropdown sample code from coderun.com - coderun.com/ide/?w=GEXVey_kckKrAkLeoIfZNg
Sample code to configure jaldropdown from within scrollable DIVs - coderun.com/ide/?w=BiE5TbXdIEehDOxNk1oajw
It is possible however the functionality is not available in Internet Explorer
The following page looks good in Firefox, Safari, Chrome, IE6 and IE8... but it looks bad in IE7. I don't have IE7 but I need to fix this issue because someone seen it in IE7 and it looks bad. Does anyone has any idea why this page renders different in IE7?...and what is the solution to make it display correctly?
http://www.aetna.com/2009annualreport/mainBoard.html
Problem:
When you click on the "Board of Directors" or "Management Team" link and the listing table panel opens up, the far right third of the panel is getting cut off. Also some information appears to be missing in the cells.
Thanks,
Attila
Yes.. use a css-reset
But also... use the validator.
http://validator.w3.org/
I used the validator and found this:
Polo Ralph Lauren Corporation</p></li>
Notice the misplaced li ?
Also add this to #boardPanel
{ width: 990px; }
This problem disappears when I remove overflow: hidden; from the .boardSlider class.
Look like another hasLayout bug.
All browsers render web pages differently. There is no one solution that will always make everything look exactly the same across all browsers. The best option is to start with a browser such as firefox or safari when you are testing and then tweak your css for internet explorer as you go along. One common technique is to use a CSS reset to try to abstract differences between browsers.
If you don't have IE7 on your machine you can test in it using http://spoon.net/browsers to see what your page will look like or see this question for more suggestions.
Check out Adobe Browser Lab. Very cool and very efficient and the best part is it's free (not anymore thanks for the headsup). It not only has various browser options but also OS options.
HTH
Just a thought - why not use DIVS and floats - you should never really use tables for layout purposes (particularly as it's 2010). Especially dynamically changing layouts. Tables are cross-browser hell, particularly when expanding / contracting using JavaScript and, from a purist's point of view, you are not displaying tabular data, so why use a table?
I'm using a very simple CSS dropdown menu which works well in most modern browsers. Unfortunately it must also work in IE6 and 7, which it currently does not. Can anyone please check it out very quickly and tell me if it can be easily fixed?
I'm not adverse to using JavaScript if required.
The markup and CSS: http://paste2.org/p/826583
The :hover pseudo selector doesn't work in IE6 or IE7 (quirks mode) for non-links (your li's for instance). That's why the original popular CSS dropdown included a bit of JavaScript.
If you're still having issues with spacing and such, I would check out the Son of Suckerfish Dropdowns. IMO the gold standard of CSS dropdowns.
Rather than trying to debug your CSS, I think you should just start with a menu that is confirmed to work in IE6 and 7. There are many, and if you start with that criteria, you'll save a lot of time.
I use jQuery and droppy. Extremely simple and works on everything. Once you find one that works, keep using it so you avoid all this waste on any future projects.
I need to make tabs that also have drop down menu and requirements are that they have to work without JavaScript. Is this possible and is there good example of this somewhere?
see this http://www.lwis.net/free-css-drop-down-menu/dropdown.nvidia.com.html
it's pure css . see the source code to understand.
This is built by Free css dropdown menu framework http://www.lwis.net/free-css-drop-down-menu/
Minimal JavaScript code only for IE 6 or earlier. Everything else is pure CSS.
if u need pure css in all browser including IE 6 try this
http://www.cssplay.co.uk/menus/new-dropdown.html
but it has some limitations
Edit:
This is also pure css menu.
http://www.grc.com/menu2/invitro.htm
This includes IE5.x, IE6, IE7's betas, all old and new Netscapes, Mozillas, Firefoxes (on PC and Linux platforms), Operas, Safari and many other Mac browsers
Here is one Solution
Try Suckerfish, Javascript is needed for Internet Explorer as older versions only support :hover on links.
Basically you need to use the hover pseudo class on the anchor tag. To avoid using javascript you need to make sure navigation is structured so the anchors can do this as in ie6 this is the only element that allows hover. So using CSS for the off state you set the element that contains the dropdown to display: none and then on the hover you set it to display: block;
It is actually fairly straightforward - the hard bit is positioning the drop down where you want it.