First of all, I haven't started the implementation of the system I'm about to describe, as I didn't want to commit on implementing something I did not know if was possible.
So, what I'm trying to achieve is to build a chrome-app to download the audio from certain websites (e.g. youtube and soundcloud) using youtube-dl, post process it using ffmpeg and then upload it to a cloud service via some api. The reason I want to do it via a chrome-app is because I could do all the work on the client side (no need for servers) and I'd have the ability to insert javascript into the pages using content scripts, which would make the app pretty simple to use (I could create buttons such as 'download song' and stuff like that).
Although I have already read the documentation explaining the NaCl Technical Overview and some of the Application Structure, I still am not sure as to whether I would be able to make these calls via some C/C++ module or if I would get denied due to security reasons.
To summarize: considering that the user has the needed dependencies in his system (youtube-dl, python, ffmpeg and etc.), is it possible to make calls to third party APIs such as the ones described before via a chrome-app using NaCl ?
Thank you all in advance,
Chrome apps are normally sandboxed.
Less so than extensions - they can reach much more system resources via app APIs.
But still, what you mention is executing libraries / utilities out of browser, and it's not normally allowed.
(P)NaCl is tightly sandboxed in this regard. See this old question, it still applies: you can only use 3rd-party code that compiles into NaCl along with your app, not just link to a library. There are some library ports to NaCl, but it's not automatic.
Normally, a few years back you would use a mechanism like NPAPI to reach out and use a library out of browser. It's deprecated, and won't work anymore. In its place, Chrome offers a pipe-like (through stdio) connection to an external program called Native Messaging. You could use it to perform operations with system-level libraries and tools, but the downside is that you can't bundle the native host with your app, you'll need a separate installer.
Is there ANY way to make an executable that installs a Chrome Extension without putting that extension in the store? Or at least from private collection (so it wouldn't be available for others)?
** Changing Chrome to DEV version or Canarian is not a solution **
Short answer, no, at least not on Windows.
The blog post is pretty unambiguous:
[...] starting in January on the Windows stable and beta channels, we’ll require all extensions to be hosted in the Chrome Web Store.
You can publish an item to Chrome Web Store as "unlisted" and then use the standard procedure to install it programmatically. This will limit exposure of your extension, but won't really prevent people from getting a link to install it (anyone with an installed version can find the web store listing by extension ID and can share it).
If you want to make a truly private extension, you can add server-side license checks. But be aware that no matter the distribution channel, they can be bypassed, since the source code is exposed in a convenient debugger anyway. On the plus side, the same hoops you have to jump through will limit damage from any "cracked" versions.
-How can I check for a new version of my application upon installation?
I feel like I remember installing an AIR application and during the install being alerted that there is a new version, and a prompt as to whether or not I wish to update.
-How do I alert the user, via textfield, that there is an update for the application and to run the "Check for updates" option?
I do not want to force the check for updates, ApplicationUpdaterUI, I want to notify users that there is a new version, and then allow then to bring up the ApplicationUpdaterUI.
Currently, upon initialization the application is popping the "Check for updates" dialog box. I would greatly appreciate some insight on either of these two questions.
I would like to note that I am developing using FlashDevelop3 RC2 and Flex 3 SDK which contains the AIR SDK and the AIR Update Framework.
Brian Hodgeblog.hodgedev.com
I don't think you can check for updates during installation. What you could do is install a basic shell app that always loads in the actual application as a swf file. You could even download this swf file the first time the app is run. After that you can always check for a new version of the app (swf) and download/update accordingly.
Hope this helps... During install - NO - you really can't run anything if you're using the standard AIR installer. You can move to a custom installer - but that's a much more work.
However, when you're first invoked - when your application starts - you can check then (and you can check as often as you want thereafter ).
The guy you want to see is ApplicationUpdater instead of ApplicationUpdaterUI. Using ApplicationUpdater you can get all of the checking / downloading / etc... But then display ANY or NO UI - of your own.
For example - you can check for updates, download them of you determine they are needed and on next 'start' of your application - you can literally 'install' all without asking the user.
I don't recommend this... But it's possible.
Fitting the scenario you asked above - you can check for updates, determine if the update is needed (comparing version or whatever) and then notify the user any way you want - as subtle as you want - to ask the user to update.
You can also do this with ApplicationUpdaterUI - you just need to turn all of the UI stuff OFF (which sort of defeats the purpose of using the UI guy) and just catch the events and display your own UI --- like:
_applicationUpdater.isCheckForUpdateVisible = false;
_applicationUpdater.isDownloadUpdateVisible = false;
_applicationUpdater.isDownloadProgressVisible = false;
Hope that helps.
I think your best bet here is to either:
a) Make sure the .air package that people are installing is always the latest version (this may not be possible if you're distributing an app on solid media, like CDs)
b) Make the update process the first thing that happens in the application (i.e. don't show your primary UI until you've checked for an updated version / shown them the update UI)
However, if you contact Adobe, you can get permission to use a bundled installer which can install both AIR and your application in a non-standard way (e.g. through InstallShield). With this method, you could do pretty much anything you wanted when the app installed, including running a simple script which would check whether they have the latest version.
You can check out http://www.adobe.com/devnet/air/articles/distributing_air_in_enterprise_02.html for a bit more info about bundled installation.
Many programs include an auto-updater, where the program occasionally looks online for updates, and then downloads and applies any updates that are found. Program bugs are fixed, supporting files are modified, and things are (usually) made better.
Unfortunately no matter how hard I look, I can't find information on this process anywhere. It seems like the auto-updaters that have been implemented have either been proprietary or not considered important.
It seems fairly easy to implement the system that looks for updates on a network and downloads them if they are available. That part of the auto-updater will change significantly from implementation to implementation. The question is what are the different approaches of applying patches. Just downloading files and replacing old ones with new ones, running a migration script that was downloaded, monkey patching parts of the system, etc.? Concepts are preferred, but examples in Java, C, Python, Ruby, Lisp, etc. would be appreciated.
I think that "language agnostic" is going to be a limiting factor here. Applications come in so many shapes and sizes that there is no one-size-fits-all answer. I have implemented several auto-updaters in several languages, and no two were similar.
The most general philosophy is that the application checks with some home location (web address, web query, corporate network location, etc.) to either ask if it's version is current, or ask what the most current version is. If the answer calls for an update, that process will be different for each situation.
A popular alternative is to invite the home location to run a script when the application is initiated. The script can check the version, download updates if necessary, and ask for usage feedback, for example.
We can probably help better if you narrow the parameters.
UPDATE: The approach to "patching" also depends on the nature of the application, and there's a very wide diversity here. If you have a single executable file, for instance, then it's probably most practical to replace the executable. If your application has many files, you should look for ways to minimize the number of files replaced. If your application is highly customized or parameterized, you should strive to minimize the re-tailoring effort. If your application employs interpreted code (such as an Excel VBA application or MS Access MDB application), then you may be able to replace parts of the code. In a Java application you may only need to replace a JAR file, or even a subset of the JAR contents. You'll also need to have a way to recognize the current client version, and update it appropriately. I could go on and on, but I hope you see my point about diversity. This is one of those many times when the best answer usually starts with "Well, it depends ...!" That's why so many answers include "Please narrow the parameters."
Be sure to also consider the security implications of sucking down information about the update, as well as the update binaries themselves.
Do you trust the source of the download? You maybe phoning home to got your update, but what if there is a man in the middle who redirects to a malicious server. An HTTPS or similar secure connection will help, but double checking the bits that you eventually download by using a digital signature check is recommended.
First you need a file on your application home web site with the latest version.
The best way I think to have special SQL table for this task and populate it automatically after publishing new version / nightly build completion.
Your application creates new thread which requests built-in http link with version and compares in with current. In .NET use can use code like this:
Version GetLatestVersion() {
HttpWebRequestrequest = (HttpWebRequest)WebRequest.Create(new Uri(new Uri(http://example.net), "version.txt));
HttpWebResponse response = (HttpWebResponse)request.GetResponse();
if (request.HaveResponse)
{
StreamReader stream = new StreamReader(response.GetResponseStream(), Encoding.Default);
return new Version(stream.ReadLine());
}
else
{
return null;
}
}
Version latest = GetLatestVersion();
Version current = new Version(Application.ProductVersion);
if (current < latest)
{
// you need an update
}
else
{
// you are up-to-date
}
In this example, version.php in only one plain string like 1.0.1.0.
Another tip I can give - how to download an update.
I like very much next idea: in the resources of your application there is a string of CLR-code which you compile on-the-fly (using CodeDom) to a temporary folder, main application calls it and goes to close. Updater reads arguments, settings or registry and downloads new modules. And calls main application which deletes all temporary files. Done!
(But everything here is about .NET)
The simplest solutions (used by many programs) is running the uninstaller for the previous version and the running the installer for the new one (optionally skipping questions which the user has already answered, like the EULA). The only catch is that the new version must be able to read the configuration options from the old version.
Also, on Windows you can't delete an executable file which is in use, so you probably will want to drop a small executable in Temp folder, which runs the whole process and then delete it at the end from the instance of the new version which got launched (or just register it to be deleted at the next reboot).
Because auto updating is a common scenario, most languages have at least one package available to support this. (Below I list some of the available packages)
One of the really nice idea's is the ClickOnce distribution for .NET, it's an installer which sandboxes your application and installs in the user context, so no administrator rights required. You can configure the ClickOnce in your publish to check for updates each application start.
Java has Java Web Start which offers the same kind of functionality for java applets.
Delphi has numerous articles about auto-updating, Torry has a list of WebUpdate components, for instance GoUpdater seems to have a very wide range of functionality.
They all use a website/network share to check for a new version and than retrieve either a patch or a complete install file and run it. So you should try to find a nice package for your application, to save you the hassle of developing and maintaining your own solution.
The simplest approach would be to have your program query a server (website) to see if there is an update. If there is an update you could display a message to the user that prompts them to download a newer version and provides a link.
An alternative and more complex solution would be to create a small windows service (or unix daemon) that checks periodically to see if there are updates, this service can download the update and launch the installer.
The general architecture is that you have a central server that you control that knows the latest version and where to get it. Then the programs query the server. I am not going to include sample code because it is highly defendant on the server and the format you choose. It is not terrible difficult though.
This is not so much a complete answer, but rather one example of auto-updating mechanism I implemented recently. The situation is a little different from the tradition Firefox-type of user application, since it was an internal tool used at work.
Basically, it's a little script that manages a queue of Subversion branches to be built and packaged in an installer. It reads a little file, where the names of the branches are written, takes the first one, re-writes it at the end of the file, and launches the build process, which involves calling a bunch of scripts. The configuration for each branch to build is written in a .INI file, stored in a Subversion repository along with the tool itself.
Because this tool runs on several computers, I wanted a way to update it automatically on all machines as soon as I made a change either to the tool itself, or to the configuration scripts.
The way I implemented it was simple: when I launch the tool, it becomes an "outer shell". This outer shell does 2 very simple things:
svn update on itself and on the configuration files
launch itself again, this time as the "inner shell", the one that actually handles one configuration (and then exits again).
This very simple update-myself-in-a-loop system has served us very well for a few months now. It's very elegant, because it is self-contained: the auto-updater is the program itself. Because "outer shell" (the auto-updater part) is so simple, it doesn't matter that it does not benefit from the updates as the "inner shell" (which gets executed from the updated source file every time).
One thing that hasn't really been mentioned is that you should seriously consider that the user running your program might not actually have sufficient privileges to upgrade it. This should be pretty common at least for business users, probably less so for home users.
I'm always working with a (self-imposed) limited account for security reasons and it always pisses me off that most auto-updaters simply assume that I'm running as admin and then after downloading just fail and offer no other way of performing the update other than actually closing the program and running it again in an administrative context. Most do not even cache the downloaded update and have to do it all over again.
It'd be much better if the auto-updater would simply prompt for admin credentials when needed and get on with it.
I'm going to assume answer for Windows.
This way seems to work well.
In the installer do:
1. Create a manual-start service that runs as LocalSystem that when started does the update then stops.
2. Change the service permissions so all users can start the service (if all users should be able to update w/o admin rights).
3. Change the main program to check for updates when started using a simple mechanism. If it detects an update, prompt if the user wants to apply it.
4. If user accepts the update, start the service.
If the architecture allows for it, create a way to monitor the update as it is running.
In a Java-Webstart setting you start a JNLP file which then triggers the download of the Jar files needed to run the application. Everytime webstart checks if there are newer versions of the Jars and would download them replacing the locally cached ones. With a tool named jardiff you will create only diffs towards the newer jars and distribute these via the server (e.g. only get an update).
Pros:
always up to date
Cons:
you need an application server (tomcat, JBoss) in order to distribute the files
you need an internet connection in order to get the application
Reading Carl Seleborgs answer gave me some ideas how a generic code-repository could be useful.
svn comes with a tool called svnsync, which sort of behaves like an svn export but keeps track of the actual revision your export is at.
Someone could utilize this system in order to only fetch the changed files from the users actual revision.
In actuality, you will have a repository with the binaries compiled, and running svnsync will only fetch the binaries that has been modified. It might also be able to merge local changes to text-based configuration files with new configuration-options.
The function of installing a patch to a program is basically one of the basic functions of an installer. Installer software is documented in numerous places but usually on a per-installer basis: There the Microsoft Installer (with Install Shield Extensions), Ruby gems, Java .jar files, the various Linux package manager systems (RPM, Apt-get)and others.
These are all complex systems which solve the problem of patching program in general but for slightly different systems. To decide what is best for you, consider which of these system your application most resembles. Rolling your own is fine but looking at these systems is a place to start.
You can write an internal module of your application to do updates. You can write an external mini application to do updates.
Also look at .NET on-the-fly compilation technology, it makes possible to create such mini application on-the-fly on demand. For example, http://fly.sf.net/
You can use my solution (part of the Target Eye project).
http://www.codeproject.com/Articles/310530/Target-Eye-Revealed-part-Target-Eyes-Unique-Auto
If your software is open sourced, and target Linux or developers. It is interesting to install your software as a git repo. And having it pull the stable branch occasionally or everytime when it is launched.
This is particular easy when your application is managed via npm, sbt, mavan, stack, elm-package or alike.
After hours of searching some working solution for this problem I've finally implemented auto update mechanism for python script that works on Linux and Windows.
In short - the script before running actual work checks for update on S3 and if it's available downloads it, unzips, creates or updates the symlink (or junction on Windows) and re-runs the script with already the new version with original arguments.
The full source code and the explanation can be found here.
If you are searching for an cross-platform software update solution, take a look at www.updatenode.com
Some highlights:
free for Open Source projects
cross-platform & Open Source update client tool
localized already for the most important languages
easy to integrate and easy to handle
cloud based management platform to define and manage updates
provides additionally support for displaying messages (inform about new events, products, etc.)
web interface is open (you can create your own client using the service)
many usage statistics, as used operating systems, geo location, version usage, etc.
Android API for mobile App updates
Just try it.
BTW, I am part of the dev team for the open source client. :)