Issue with my right outer join in MYSQL - mysql

Question

Outer joins don't seem to work whether I use a left outer join or right outer join:
SELECT * FROM `event_orchestra_musicians` eom
right outer join `orchestra_instruments` oi on eom.instrument_id = oi.oi_id
where event_id = 2
order by instrument_id
Orchestra_instruments contains different instruments with a unique ID i.e.:
Violin
Viola
Harp
Piccolo
Event_Orchestra_Musicians is a look up table to join musicians to an instrument i.e.:
musician_id, instrument_id, event_id,
1 1 2
2 1 2
3 3 2
4 2 2
When I do any outer join, using the data in those tables, I would get the results of an inner join (Piccolo wouldn't show up with a null musician_id, it wont show up at all). Is there something I'm doing wrong?
EDIT:
So I did some monkeying around. The issue seems to be because there is a record in the events_orchestra_musicians table with an event_id of 5 and an instrument_id of 7. If I remove that record, then the outer join works. What I don't get is if that record is there and I use the where clause to look for event_id = 2, why does it matter if there's a record in there with an instrument_id of 7 if its event_id is 5?

Answer 1

Try this:
select oi.oi_id, oi.instrument_name, eom.musician_id
from orchestra_instruments oi
left join event_orchestra_musicians eom on oi.oi_id = eom.instrument_id
where (eom.event_id = 2 or eom.event_id is null)
order by oi.oi_id
You have to use orchestra_instruments as the base table, since that is the one you want all of the records for, even if no musician exists. I can't imagine any reasons for using a Right join over a Left join, and Outer is implied. Also, you have to allow event_id to either be 2 or null, because it cannot be 2 if there is no matching record to join.

Answer 2

You don't have any records in Event_Orchestra_Musicians where instrument_id=4 so you'll need to check for a null value from eom when doing a right outer join.
SELECT * FROM `event_orchestra_musicians` eom
right outer join `orchestra_instruments` oi on eom.instrument_id = oi.oi_id
where event_id = 2 or eom.instrument_id is null
order by instrument_id

Answer 3

Here is my complete setup. Maybe there something with your structure?
mysql> show columns from orchestra_instruments;
+---------+-------------+------+-----+---------+-------+
| Field | Type | Null | Key | Default | Extra |
+---------+-------------+------+-----+---------+-------+
| oi_id | int(11) | YES | | NULL | |
| oi_name | varchar(10) | YES | | NULL | |
+---------+-------------+------+-----+---------+-------+
2 rows in set (0.01 sec)
mysql> show columns from event_orchestra_musicians;
+---------------+---------+------+-----+---------+-------+
| Field | Type | Null | Key | Default | Extra |
+---------------+---------+------+-----+---------+-------+
| musician_id | int(11) | YES | | NULL | |
| instrument_id | int(11) | YES | | NULL | |
| event_id | int(11) | YES | | NULL | |
+---------------+---------+------+-----+---------+-------+
3 rows in set (0.01 sec)
mysql> select * from orchestra_instruments;
+-------+---------+
| oi_id | oi_name |
+-------+---------+
| 1 | Violin |
| 2 | Viola |
| 3 | Harp |
| 4 | Piccolo |
+-------+---------+
4 rows in set (0.00 sec)
mysql> select * from event_orchestra_musicians;
+-------------+---------------+----------+
| musician_id | instrument_id | event_id |
+-------------+---------------+----------+
| 1 | 1 | 2 |
| 2 | 1 | 2 |
| 3 | 3 | 2 |
| 4 | 2 | 2 |
+-------------+---------------+----------+
4 rows in set (0.00 sec)
select oi.oi_id, oi.oi_name, eom.musician_id
from orchestra_instruments oi
left join event_orchestra_musicians eom on oi.oi_id = eom.instrument_id
where (eom.event_id = 2 or eom.event_id is null)
order by oi.oi_id;
+-------+---------+-------------+
| oi_id | oi_name | musician_id |
+-------+---------+-------------+
| 1 | Violin | 1 |
| 1 | Violin | 2 |
| 2 | Viola | 4 |
| 3 | Harp | 3 |
| 4 | Piccolo | NULL |
+-------+---------+-------------+
5 rows in set (0.00 sec)