I am trying to write the manifest file but I am having weird problem in FF5, its caching all despite saying to don't do so. My manifest file looks like:
CACHE MANIFEST
NETWORK:
*
any ideas?
http://www.html5rocks.com/en/tutorials/appcache/beginner/
this says if you reference the manifest file in html files as manifest attributes then it will be cached even if its not listed in manifest file.
I did a presentation about offline and local storage not long ago.
Video available here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWCk6FZMpcU
It's a bit complicated. I had to read Dive Into HTML5 multiple times and then experiment a lot to get things working.
I have an example PHP manifest "build" script here: https://github.com/JasonHanley/note5/blob/master/build.php
It seems you don't have anything set to cache, why would you need a cache manifest file if this is the case? If you are trying to cache some things I would try properly defining them under CACHE: and see if it then cache's the appropriate assets.
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I changed my cache.manifest file to the following:
CACHE MANIFEST
NETWORK:
*
CACHE:
FALLBACK:
This triggered an update to my site.
I tried adding a "#" to the manifest file and then removed the manifest="cache.manifest"from my page.
This triggered the cache to be updated again, even though the reference to the manifest was gone. The console indicated it was still being loaded from cache.
I even tried renaming my cache.manifest file and it still was being loaded from cache.
How in the world can I safely stop using cache manifest? I have a completely new version of my site I want to roll out, but if cache manifest is still trying to cache the new site, that will be a disaster for all my visitors who do not know they need to clear their browser cache.
I believe I found the trick.
It seems I need to keep the old cache.manifest but change (not remove) the reference to a non-existent manifest file.
Presumably, I'll need to keep the broken reference there for several years in case I have visitors who only visit periodically.
I've just started reading the explanation of the HTML 5 cache in w3schools and there is some confusion in my head regarding this.
consider having this manifest file:
CACHE MANIFEST
/main.html
/logic.js
This file will load these two files. My question is what will happen when you have this:
CACHE MANIFEST
/main.html
And you load logic.js in the main.html. Will it still work?
I started to use HTML5 cache to view a simple HTML page with one css file and two js files.
My problem is that the cache is used whether I'm offline or not. But I just want to use the cache when I'm offline.
Does anyone know how to solve this?
index.html file manifest:
<html manifest="app.cache">
app.cache manifest file:
CACHE MANIFEST
/index.html
/css/style.css
/js/jquery-1.7.1.min.js
/js/functions.min.js
Thank you!
According to the standard as given at whatwg, this is possible by changing the cache mode from the default fast to the prefer-online state. There, the instructions given are to add the following at the end of your appcache manifest, after listing all the files you need available offline:
SETTINGS:
prefer-online
NETWORK:
*
Apparently the idea behind this is to allow adding basic offline support to "legacy" applications that cannot help having to change the html document everytime it is served. I have not verified that this works in any current browser.
manifest="app.cache" - not going to solve your problem. It caches all the file listed in manifest file. You have to save your data in local storage or in local db and have to retrieve data from server/local based on connection status [online/offline].
Gurus of SO
I am trying to play with CACHE MANIFEST/HTML5. My app is JS heavy and built on jquery/jquerymobile.
This is an excerpt of what my Manifest looks like
CACHE MANIFEST
FALLBACK:
/
NETWORK:
*
CACHE:
/css/style.css
/js/jquery.js
But somehow, the app doesn't load the files the first time itself and the entire app breaks down.
Is my format wrong?
Should I never load JS into the Cache?
How should I treat this differently to always check the network first if anything isn't available and only load stuff available from the Cache?
Thank you.
I tried a simple page with your cache manifest and it worked fine for me, so I'm not really sure what the problem is. But,
Yes, there is something wrong with the format. The entries in the FALLBACK section need to have two parts: a pattern, and a URL. This says "if any page matching the pattern is not available offline, display the URL instead (which will be cached)." The main example of this (as shown here) is "/ /offline.html", which means "for all pages, if we are offline and they are not cached, display /offline.html instead." However, I don't think this is the source of your problem since I tested it with your exact manifest and it still worked.
There is nothing special about JS files. It should be fine to load them into the cache.
I don't understand the third question. There are possibly two goals here: a) how do you check to see if there is a newer version of the file available online first, before going back to the cache, and b) how do you check the network to see if there is a file that is not cached, and if we are offline, fall back to an error page. The answer to (a) is that once you have turned on the cache manifest, things work very differently. It will never check for new versions of the files unless there is a new version of the manifest also. So you must always update the manifest whenever you change any files. The answer to (b) is the FALLBACK section.
See Dive Into HTML5's excellent chapter on this, particularly the section "The fine art of debugging, a.k.a. “Kill me! Kill me now!”" which explains how the manifest updates.
Also I don't think we've gotten to the meat of your question, because it's unclear what you mean by "the app doesn't load the files the first time itself". Which files don't load? Do they load properly after a refresh? Etc.
The only way I got this to work to refresh a cache was to rename the manifest file with a commit number or timestamp, and change the cache declaration to
<html manifest='mymanifest382330.manifest'>
I made this part of my build.
Every URL can be linked to a single cache manifest. But I want several cache manifests linked to a same URL. Here is the reason:
Some files I want to be cached are rarely updated and large.
So everytime the cache gets updated these large files get re-downloaded even though they may not have been changed.
So I want to split up the cache. One cache for theses rarely updated large files and another cache for the often updated light files.
Do you guys have any idea how to split up an HTML5 cache?
The most efficient way is:
a) Use far-future expiration date (max-age) on all resources mentioned in manifest's CACHE section and add timestamp suffix to each file in the CACHE section, e.g.:
CACHE:
menu_1355817388000.js
toolbar_1355817389100.js
b) When any of the above files change on the server, regen/update manifest to change the timestamp. Only the file with the modified timestamp will get downloaded next time. Mission accomplished.
Note: Reload the page twice in the browser, as on the first refresh browser downloads just the manifest and uses old cached resources to paint the page. This is done to speed up displaying the page (there are tricks to handle this issue of double refresh, but they are outside the scope of your question)
See more info in this long but best article I ever seen on appcache.
Use an iframe
Your page's cache manifest would include the light files and the cache manifest of an iframe loaded by this page would include the large files
On chrome the iframe's application cache will also be used for the page. I didn't tested this method on other browsers yet.
see a live example at http://www.timer-tab.com and if you are using chrome see its split up cache at chrome://appcache-internals/
When the manifest file is changed and the files of the application cache are downloaded again, the normal HTTP caching rules still apply. This means that if you set the correct HTTP caching headers for these large files, you'll get a 304 so these files are not downloaded again. So it's not necessary to split the application cache.
Maybe an answer but I'd more like to shed some light on my findings as a I troubleshoot my own webapp.
I've discovered that I can use 2 iframes (manifest_framework) and (manifest_media) to load the manifests, but i'm still not exactly clear how they are targetted, but I had limited success.
manifest_framework:
CACHE MANIFEST
CACHE:
appdata.ini
dialog.png
jquery.min.js
login.htm
login.js
manifest.appcache.js
NETWORK:
*
FALLBACK:
manifest_media:
CACHE MANIFEST
CACHE:
manifest_fwk.php
od/audio_track_1_1.m4a
od/audio_track_1_2.m4a
od/audio_track_1_3.m4a
od/audio_track_1_4.m4a
od/video_1.mp4
od/video_2.mp4
od/video_3.mp4
NETWORK:
*
FALLBACK:
./ webapp.php
./index.php is the page the 'landing page' which itself isn't cached but falls back to webapp.php when offline.
What I don't understand is how these link to the webapp.php page.
I am finding I can only get access to one or the other manifests cache.
The above works in mobile safari, the media would be cached, and image but not necessarily the JS or images in the framework manifest.
Anyone have more examples where multiple manifests are referenced from the one URL/page?
The W3C working group has abandoned the file system api, so it SHOULD NOT BE USED anymore.
We'll likely see it fall off the next version of Chrome.
http://www.w3.org/TR/file-system-api/
CACHE MANIFEST
# This is a comment.
# Cache manifest version 0.0.1
# If you change the version number in this comment,
# the cache manifest is no longer byte-for-byte
# identical.
demoimages/mypic.jpg
demoimages/yourpic.jpg
demoimages/ourpic.jpg
sr/scroll.js
NETWORK:
# All URLs that start with the following lines
# are whitelisted.
# whitelisted items are needed to help the site function, you could put regularly
# changing items here
http://example.com/examplepath/
http://www.example.org/otherexamplepath/
CACHE:
# Additional items to cache.
demoimages/allpics.jpg
FALLBACK:
demoimages/currentImg.jpg images/stockImage.jpg`
If the Iframe trick does not work, use the HTML5 FileSystem API
See http://updates.html5rocks.com/2012/04/Taking-an-Entire-Page-Offline-using-the-HTML5-FileSystem-API