It's been a long day of designing and I ran into a problem today. The website www.dcninc.com/newtest/security_testing.php is a new design I'm working on at work right now.
If you view it in Firefox you will notice there is no padding on the 2 right boxes (I did that on purpose to trouble shoot my problem) However if you view that same page in IE, it adds padding to the right side. Here is my CSS and HTML below.
http://pastebin.com/hRxZp9ub
http://pastebin.com/YwSYn7ti
You have elements nested within each other that have widths of 250.
Like this,
<table width="250"><tr width="250"></tr><table width="250"></table></table>
Since there has been some width used up with padding, there is not 250 pixels of free space for you to put inside the table. I would try lowering the width of the inner elements by 10-20 pixels.
Hope this helps. Here's the markup I was referencing,
<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="250">
<tr>
<td width="250" height="9" style="background:url(Images/right_box_gray_top.png) no-repeat;"></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td style="background:url(Images/right_box_gray_middle.png) repeat-y" width="250">
<div class="list-right-info">
<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="250">
<tr>
<td width="40"><img src="Images/icons/phonepic.jpg" border="0" /></td>
<td><center>CALL US TODAY<br /> 800.xxx.xxxx</center></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td></td>
<td></td>
</tr>
</table>
</div>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td style="background:url(Images/right_box_gray_bottom.png) no-repeat" width="250" height="108"></td>
</tr>
</table>
Try to add this to the header
<!--[if lt IE 8]>
<script src="http://ie7-js.googlecode.com/svn/version/2.0(beta3)/IE8.js" type="text/javascript"></script>
<![endif]-->
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So I have a responsive email that has a left and right box. Which looks like this:
But in Microsoft Outlook 2003 - 2013 these two blocks render like this:
You can find my code for these boxes here: https://jsfiddle.net/uhjjqkmo/
Unfortunately I am unable to post the full code (discretion of the client).
Example DOM layout:
<!-- START:LEFT -->
<table width="295" align="left" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0">
<tbody>
<tr>
<td>
Left
</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>
<!-- END:LEFT -->
<!-- START:RIGHT -->
<table width="295" align="right" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0">
<tbody>
<tr>
<td>
Right
</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>
<!-- END:RIGHT -->
I have added some extra css rules to your code:
Updated fiddle
And I found out that it was better to put width="49%" on the floating tables (instead of width="295")
BEFORE:
AFTER:
Then an extra tip I can give you is to combine align and float.
<table align="right" style="float:right; Float: right;">
<tr>
<td width="200"><img src="" alt="" /></td>
</tr>
</table>
This to get the best possible results for floating tables in email e.g. when trying to float an image in text ;)
This is the code that I trying
CSS
<style>
.myposition {
position:absolute;bottom:0; margin-bottom:0px; margin-top:30px;
}
</style>
Code
<td width="300" valign="top" style="position:relative;">
<div style="top:0">
<table width="310" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0">
<tr>
<td align="center" valign="top">content</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td align="center" valign="top">content</td>
</tr>
</table>
</div>
<div class="myposition">
<table>
<tr>
<td align="center" valign="bottom">content</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td valign="top" align="center">content</td>
</tr>
</table>
</div>
</td>
This code is working perfectly in IE as I want but not going well in all other browsers, the div with absolute positioning is overlapping the div above it.
What I am trying to make is this, please check
http://www.spoiledagent.com/ads/Help.jpg
You can check it at http://www.spoiledagent.com/members/about_hanu.php
I have given access to this link
Gecko doesn't support table cells being absolute containing blocks. That's on the one hand a bug in Gecko and on the other a lack in the spec (which explicitly says that the behavior of specifying position: relative on a table cell is not defined).
So, typical question. I have searched a boatload here. Tried everything suggested. Nutin'
So Maybe to ask the question fresh.
I am having some verical gaps in Outlook 2013 (and 2007 too i think) between my image slices. (Also my text is extending further than it is set as)
Knowing that display:block doesn't really work for Outlook. I've tried wrapping in spans and giving the span a display:block
I'm at a loss. I'm hoping someone can answer this one easily. Grrrrr!!!! Outlook! Why must you be so popular?
http://pastebin.com/ESfEmWer
http://tinypic.com/r/2gtdhu1/6
Don't go for
display: [anything]
if you wish to include Outlook 2007. See http://www.xequte.com/support/maillistking/css_in_emails.html for reference of which CSS styles you can use and which you better don't.
Don't use any whitespaces trailing
<td>
and don't use any whitespaces preceding
</td>
And you should also avoid
<style>...</style>
as this will most likely will be striped away completely. Always go for inline-styles. And I know that this is not part of a real answer, but just as a hint: If you are doing HTML newsletters make them as if you were doing them for Internet Explorer 4. E-Mail clients like Outlook use the most ridiculous CSS-renderer you can imagine. Even Internet Explorer 5 is more sophisticated in rendering CSS then modern Outlooks.
Oh, and by the way: If there is a chance that the recipients of your newsletter might read them online in hotmail, gmx or gmail then you should check them, too. You will stand in awe and wonder how those online clients handle your code and what they inject.
You have a ton of whitespace causing the gap:
<a href="mms://a1783.v167326.c16732.g.vm.akamaistream.net/7/1783/16732/0/QPS.Onstreammedia.com/origin/jjready2/%5bInbox%5d/Talent%20Management/CDF%201-18_WMV.wmv">
<img style="display:block" src="http://emaniocreative.com/eblasts/3_26_2013/Message-from-Dominic-&-Louise.jpg" width="360" height="257" border="0" alt="Message from Dominic & Louise - Video"></a>
Try taking the whitespace out.. also display:block doesn't work like display:inline-block (the later you probably want instead) You cannot add formatting such as margin or padding to SPAN. I would keep what you have as IMG and DIV elements, however if you are using a TABLE you may want the border-collapse:collapse; property set.
Also to note, if you are using display:inline-block you will want to take out ALL whitespace between your elements:
<tr>...</tr><tr>...</tr>
Instead of what you have currently:
<tr>
...
</tr>
<tr>
...
</tr>
You have way too many colspans, which could cause problems. You should be nesting your tables instead.
I've created hundreds of emails and never had any issues with whitespace caused by line-returns in email code. (Outlook 2007 is the first thing I check my emails in)
It is always good practice to use display:block; and also keep images in their own <td> by themselves.
Try something like this instead:
<html>
<head>
<title>Ambassador Newsletter</title>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1">
<style>img {display:block}</style>
</head>
<!--REPLACE the following text with the path to the images on your server http://emaniocreative.com/eblasts/3_26_2013/ -->
<body style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background-color: #FFFFFF;" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><table bgcolor="#ebebeb" width="100%" border="0" align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tr><td><table width="600" border="0" align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tr><td valign="top" style="padding-top:30px; padding-bottom:30px;">
<table id="Table_01" width="650" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" bgcolor="#ffffff" style="border-collapse: collapse;">
<tr>
<td>
<!-- NEST A TABLE INSTEAD-->
<table width="100%" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" bgcolor="#770000">
<tr>
<td style="padding:20px;">
header
</td>
</tr>
</table>
<!-- /NEST-->
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>
<!-- NEST A TABLE INSTEAD-->
<table width="100%" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0">
<tr>
<td style="padding:20px;">
Body section 1
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td style="padding:20px;">
Body section 2
</td>
</tr>
</table>
<!-- /NEST-->
</td>
</tr>
</table>
</td></tr></table></td></tr></table></body></html>
In my example I used padding instead of cells for spacing.
You never need a blank spacer image. Use a in an empty cell instead if you prefer not to use padding:
<table width="100%" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" bgcolor="#770000">
<tr>
<td height="20" colspan="3">
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="20">
</td>
<td width="610">
header
</td>
<td width="20">
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="20" colspan="3">
</td>
</tr>
</table>
On a side note, there is an unavoidable issue with vertical separation when forwarding from Outlook to Gmail for example, (courtesy of mso.normal p tags added) but for the initial recipient there are no problems.
I'm working on optimizing HTML emails for mobile devices. I have been tasked with finding a universal solution for creating a 2 column to 1 column responsive layout. I found an article written by Campaign Monitor - http://www.campaignmonitor.com/guides/mobile/responsive/. I've tried their markup and it works on most clients and browsers with the exception of Outlook 2007, 2010, and 2013. I've provided a jsfiddle link with my markup for reference. Is there a way to make this work in these version of Outlook?
EDIT: I'm not trying to make the responsive part of the email work in Outlook. I want the 2 tables ( Left & Right in the jsfiddle example) to display next to each other rather than stacked on top of one another. This works in Gmail (IE, FF, Chrome, Safari), AOL (IE, FF, Chrome, Safari), Yahoo (IE, FF, Chrome, Safari), Hotmail (IE, FF, Chrome, Safari), Apple Mail 4 & 5, Outlook 2003, Android 4.0, iOS 4, 5, & 6. My concern is only with Outlook 2007 and later when the rendering engine changed.
<html>
<head>
<style>
#media all and (max-width: 590px){
*[class].responsive{ width: 320px !important; }
}
</style>
</head>
<body>
<table width="100%" style="background-color: #000;" align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0">
<tbody>
<tr>
<td height="15"></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="100%">
<table width="560" style="background-color: #fff;" align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="responsive">
<tbody>
<tr>
<td width="100%">
<table width="280" align="left" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="responsive">
<tbody>
<tr>
<td width="100%" height="40" style="background-color: #ececec;">
<div height="40" style="font-weight:bold; font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif; text-align:center;">Left (top)</div>
</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>
<table width="280" align="left" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="responsive">
<tbody>
<tr>
<td width="100%" height="40" style="background-color: #bcbcbc;">
<div height="40" style="font-weight:bold; font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif; text-align:center;">Right (bottom)</div>
</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>
</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="15"></td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>
</body>
</html>
http://jsfiddle.net/bxdUp/
Have you tried adding align="left" and align="right" to the stacking tables?
See updated fiddle: http://jsfiddle.net/bxdUp/1/
You currently have the right table with align="left", but I have had success with Outlook table alignment manipulating the align value.
For anyone that comes across this SO and is looking for a solution to the above problem where the responsive 2-column content is ALSO centered I found that using conditionals to define columns only for Outlook made my world 1^300 easier. Of course it is no longer responsive in Outlook, but really... F Outlook.
<!-- define a 100% width table -->
<table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="100%">
<tbody>
<tr>
<td width="100%" style="text-align:center; background-color:white">
<!-- define a fixed width table using a class for responsive. I found that defining an arbitary height seemed to be important ~ silly Outlook -->
<!-- align center -->
<table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="fixedWidthTable" border="0" height="300" align="center">
<tbody>
<tr>
<td>
<!-- align left (this renders as float:left in webkit). Absolutely defined width. -->
<table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="300" align="left" style="margin:0;padding:0;width:300px">
<tr>
<td>
<!-- content -->
</td>
</tr>
</table>
<!-- > THIS BIT IS THE KICKER < whack in a column if Outlook -->
<!--[if mso]></td><td><![endif]-->
<!-- Brilliant. -->
<!-- align right (this renders as float:right in webkit). Absolutely defined width. -->
<table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="300" align="right" style="margin:0;padding:0;width:300px">
<tr>
<td>
<!-- content -->
</td>
</tr>
</table>
</td>
</tr>
</table>
... close outer tables etc.
I've found that reductions in table widths by a few pixels work in the case for Outlook, which I can only assume is Outlook rendering pixel widths differently than other email clients.
Not ideal, but it has worked for me.
I don't think that it is gonna work on Outlook versions. Because first of all Outlook doesn't understand media queries. Outlook version 2007 is based on the rendering Engine of IE, while as Outlook version 2010 and version 2013 use Word as the rendering engine for displaying html emails. So I believe there is no way to get them to work in Outlook.
One more point is that when this code is executed in Outlook, it will ignore everything that is inside style tags. You should give style as inline for Outlook emails.
I'm designing an HTML Newsletter and I've run into this problem:
As you can see, the cellspacing is completely out of whack: there shouldn't (and CAN'T) be a space between the rows on the left and right column. I don't really know what the culprit could be, any ideas would be appreciated!
Here's the relevant source code:
<table width="740" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="1">
<tr>
<td colspan="3">
<img src="top.jpg" width="740" height="53">
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td colspan="3" height="200" valign="top" id="headerCell">
<img src="header.jpg" width="740" height="200" alt="Headerbild">
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>
L
</td>
<td valign="top" width="600" bgcolor="#ffffff">
CONTENT
</td>
<td>
R
</td>
</tr>
The HTML looks fine to me. Have you tried eliminating the unnecessary whitespace? That could be a possible cause (also, remember the great IE6, which had whitespace issues).
The HTML rendering engines in e-mail clients are just horrible. I've had to design some newsletters a while back and it sucked big time. Here's a nice collection of tips, maybe it'll be of some help.
I finally found out what was causing this spacing: a padding-top set on the center cell caused the left and right cells top edge to stay flush with the content-top of the center cell.