How do i render html/css same in firefox and IE - html

i am making a menu for my school assignment and it needs to work in both IE and firefox.
I am done the menu and it works perfectly in firefox, but i am having trouble getting it to display properly in IE
A part can be found over here: http://tutudragon3.info/ie-trying.php
When i click the home image in firefox, a dropdown sort of thing pops-up with 2 images with text "d" and "d". In firefox, there is no space between those dropdown images, but when i try it in IE, I see a small blank space between them.
how could i fix this (delete that space) please. I tried many different things but it didn't work.
Using IE8 by the way.

Before worrying about any specific bugs:
Use a Doctype that triggers standards mode, as quirks mode inconsistencies are a nightmare to deal with. If in doubt, use HTML 4.01 Strict: http://www.w3.org/QA/2002/04/valid-dtd-list.html
Deal with machine detectable errors

If you have done the things David mentions, and still see some differences, you might want to take a look at ie7.js, it is a JavaScript library to make Microsoft Internet Explorer behave like a standards-compliant browser.

I don't find any problem in IE7. But if you are having the problem, try giving display:block; to the <A> and <IMG> tags. The problem should vanish.

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IE8 rendering problems with h2

on a website I am working on I have problems with an rendering issue which I can't figure out.
I've already played with margins, positioning, z-indices and so on to get it away but nothing of that helped.
It only occurs in IE8 (under Windows XP, don`t know if on newer OS also). I know IE8 is a bit deprecated, but because the rest of the page is displaying fine with it I would also like to support it, since some of my visitors may have installed it.
If you take a look at the page you can identify the issue very fast when using IE8:
http://kunden.tommy-computer.at/fsv_noetsch/
Here is what the menu headers look like in modern browsers like FF/Chrome/Opera/IE>8:
And here is what they look like in IE8 (wrong):
How can I get rid of it. Please help, can`t figure it out why this happens. Thank you very much !
You are using the new html doctype and I noticed you are also using at least one html 5 element article. IE 8 won't recognize that element, or anything related to html 5. You need to use javascript to fix IE by using a script called html5shiv.
What this will do is inform IE of the new elements so they can be styled.

Hacks to make IE display like every other browser

I've been working on a PHP project for University, and as I'm rubbish at PHP I've left the design very simple so I can concentrate on the programming side of things. Now the programming is working I'm working on the design. The site looks fine in Chrome and other webkit browsers but in IE9 it looks awful. The main problems are...
1 - Background image expands the div to the full image size, whereas in webkit is only fills the div size.
2 - Content is not centred, instead it is floated left.
Does anyone know any scripts/hacks I can use to get IE to perform like every other browser? The only thing I'm using at the minute is Modernizr.
You can have a look at the site here if it helps - http://newmedia.leeds.ac.uk/ug10/cs10cwh/pod/index.php.
Modernizr can help, especially if you're using newer things like html5 and css3. Another thing that can help is boilerplate code, I personally like the html5reset.
One particular thing from that is going to help you a lot: if I look at your site in IE it says it goes into Quirks mode, making IE7, 8, and 9 behave... well... quirky :) Place the following meta tag in your head section to improve things for IE:
<meta http-equiv="X-UA-Compatible" content="IE=edge,chrome=1">
You can see what "Browser Mode" and "Document Mode" IE is running in by bringing up the developer toolbar (F12), you can tweak it temporarily for your browsing session to see what happens if document mode is "IE9 standards".
A short update. You may also want to try using w3 validator. One of the errors it gives me for your site:
Line 1, Column 15: Comments seen before doctype. Internet Explorer will
go into the quirks mode.
There are also a few errors on unclosed tags, which can throw off rendering.
What we do is using a seperate .css for the IE versions and in the root we determine the browser and include that .css
So include your normal css for all browsers and for the IE versions include the specific .css file which overwrites the necessary party of the main stylesheet.
Edit: And like Jeroen said, force the IE to render in it's real mode, not some compatible or quirks thing.

IE9 CSS compatibility and DOCTYPE statement

I got this page that works OK in Chrome, and it doesn't in IE9.
I tried making a new css for the IE9 page, using a conditional comment in the html code. That's okay.
But then I tried including a doctype statement... and the following happens:
when I include the doctype in the html file, everything is messed up
(even in Chrome) but once I deleted it, the page looks great in
Chrome and IE9.
If I restart IE9 (or remove temporary data) the page doesn't work
again.
I don't really know what's happening.
Any help would be really appreciated.
As has already been said, always use a doctype. Without one, IE renders in quirks mode, and what you get will be very different from what you get in other browsers.
If you code looks bad with a doctype, then I would suggest your code is bad to begin with. You've designed your site to quirksmode, which is going to give you results that seem random (they're not, but it will seem that way).
You're going to have to redesign your site to use standards mode. Then it will look the same (or similar) in all modern browsers.
First, you should always include a doctype. It tells the browser what set of rules you're going to be playing by.
If you omit a doctype, IE will assume your markup is ancient, and trigger Quirks Mode, which is essentially the rendering of IE 5.5. Side effects of this include the IE box model bug.
Without seeing any markup, I strongly recommend validating your markup and CSS using the W3C validators. Often times, Chrome and FireFox are "better" at guessing the meaning of questionable markup, IE not so much.
First of all, it's hard to find a solution without seeing your HTML/CSS. Generally, you shouldn't need a separate CSS file for IE...
Also I suggest you try using the HTML5 Boilerplate to help minimise browser inconsistencies. This should solve most problems unless it's an error in your CSS.

Internet Explorer CSS Problem

This page is being rendered incorrectly by IE 9 (and probably older versions too). The right menu is floating to the bottom of the page. Firefox, Chrome and Safari are rendering it correctly. Other pages in the blog are also being rendered fine by all browsers. I already tried to fire IE 9 Developer Tools (F12) and reduce the width of some divs (such as #main and .columns-inner)... no lucky with this approach, even with extra space the right menu is still rendered at the bottom. So I figure that the problem is in the Blogger auto-generated tags / css for the page content (which I am able to modify). Any CSS gurus out there can point what is wrong?
Cheers,
You have this line in your <head>, which is causing IE9 to render the page in IE7 mode:
<META content=IE=EmulateIE7 http-equiv=X-UA-Compatible>
If you remove this, it renders fine in IE8 and IE9. It still renders poorly in IE7, though.
Edit:
In response to your comment, I am able to replicate the issue with the background no longer being opaque. After some investigation, there is a particular script file being loaded:
http://www.blogger.com/static/v1/jsbin/938506610-ieretrofit.js
If you remove the <meta content='IE=EmulateIE7' http-equiv='X-UA-Compatible'/> on line 4 of the source, and you remove the ieretrofit.js file from line 1471 of the source, the page should render correctly in IE9.
Since the ieretrofit.js file appears to be generated by Google, you might want to ask them about it. If you would like to disable it JUST for IE9, and allow it to continue for IE8 and below, you should take a closer look at line 1471 of the source. Here is a snippet (it's quite long, this starts around character #2275):
'\74!--[if IE]\76\74script
The !--[if IE] there is part of an IE conditional comment. You can change that snippet like so, and it will still target IE8 and below, without affecting IE9:
'\74!--[if lte IE 8]\76\74script
Let me know if you have any further issues!
The page has 104 validation errors — I’d start by fixing those if I were you.
Almost certainly it is because the page is invalid. Also, I really would think about starting again with this page as it is overly complex markup.
Guys. Figured it out (with great help from andyb and Paul D.)
The validator pointed to some unpaired </div> tags that I removed. Now it is working flawless.

How can I make html padding that looks the same in different browsers?

I have a blog, www.realcanadianenglish.blogspot.com. I use Firefox to write it. Sometimes I check the blog using Internet Explorer. With the later it shows a gap between the picture and the text sometimes. Can I change the HTML code to fix this? Why is there a difference between the two: Explorer and Firefox?
Internet Explorer can have extra padding on some elements. I suggest you try to include a CSS Reset file first and then your own CSS file.
Here's a good Stackoverflow question about CSS Reset files
The blog looks fine on IE8. If you're having a problem with it, I would recommend running IE8 and using the debug tool provided (hit F12). You can dynamically change the HTML and CSS from right inside the browser. It's faster than uploading a new template every time you want to test a change.
You are refering to the IE Model Bug
In most cases the issue will be with IE and, in those cases, it's sometimes best, or at least convenient, to just serve IE a line or two to bring it into line with the other far more modern browsers with "conditional comments". These comments will be recognized only by IE but wind up allowing you to include styling or html that won't affect other browsers. They are easy to use but have a few variations based on which version of IE you are targeting. Here is the link explaining them all: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms537512(VS.85).aspx
Here is the best place to learn about IE CSS bugs: http://www.positioniseverything.net/ie-primer.html