We have a product developed in C#.Net. It is not a web application but a desktop version. It connects to various databases like MSSQL, MySQL etc.
We keep on upgrading the versions of the software for bug fixes as well as new functionality.
These updates changes the exe as well as dll used and the database also.
We would like to know what are the different methods using which we can provide updates to our customer.
Consider deploying your app with ClickOnce . Lets your users easily install the application from a web server, and it has automatic support for updates. It's integrated with visual studio, and will generate the stuff you need with the push of a button.
Well, there are several different paths to take.
Simple: Just provide a new installer that overwrites the previous installation. Send the clients an email when it's ready or simply put it up on your site.
Mid level: Provide a "check for new version" function in your app that compares it's version number to one retrieved from a web service on your side. Fire up a browser to download it and run the installer if necessary...
Best (IMHO):
Create a wrapper application for yours. This wrapper is what would actually be started when they click your icon. It would check for new versions (again once every couple of weeks), then fire off the main program if everything is good. If an update exists give the user the option to download it. Download the file and replace the real app. Then launch it. BTW, This is pretty close to the Firefox model.
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I was able to split the database and used packaging solution to distribute the front-end. I tested it the exe file and it worked fine. Now I am updating the forms and I cannot figure out a way of updating just the front-end (backend is on the server) wihtout going through the new installation of the new package. I did create the template file while going through the process of packaging the database.
I found this website but was afraid the unzip the file. Have any of you use this tool?
http://www.btabdevelopment.com/ts/freetools
Thank you
Some existing tools
Here is a list of deployment tools for Access front ends:
Auto FE Updater from Tony Toews (probably the best, but commercial)
Application Starter from Peter's Software
Front End Updater Utility, from Roger's Access Library
AutoUpdater, from the UtterAccess archives
The one you listed could also help.
More information on deployment
The issue is that there is no single way to update an Access application.
As you discovered, the packaging tools are nice, but they don't really take care of the most important, and complex, part of deploying software: how do you update an existing installation?
Access doesn't have a good story here, so there are many custom solutions, each with its flaws and advantages.
You were right that in any case, you must separate the backend database, containing only the tables, from the front-end, containing the code, forms and reports.
The front-end must be deployed to each user: the rule being that a front-end is meant to be used by a single user only.
What's in a good updater
So, what are the characteristics that you want in a good update story:
User should not have to do anything: you want the user to get the new version of the front-end as soon as it is made available, automatically.
This could mean that your front-end could check if there is a new version available on a remote folder before it allows the user to login or star any work.
If a version is available, it is then fetched and deployed.
Sometimes, because your development environment may be different from the user's environment (different server names, different shared folders, etc), you may also need to re-link the tables in the front-end to the correct path of the back-end after deployment.
What I am using for my deployments
For a few years now, I have perfected my own system that works without a stitch.
Instead of launching the application directly, when the user click the application icon, a small launcher application is started.
The launcher I use is a simple Click-Once application (so it can auto-update) written in .Net.
The launcher is responsible for ensuring that the main application is only running once, and also for checking and deploying new versions (or downgrading them) when updates are made available.
Updates are simply packaged into zip files that contain all the files necessary for a new update.
The name of the file contains the version number, like myAppFE-2013-08-01.zip so that sorting the list of clients packages by name would make it easy to pick the most up-to-date package.
All these front-end packages are stored on a shared folder on a server, for instance if my backend database is in \\myServer\myApp\DB, the front-end packages could be kept in \\myServer\myApp\FE.
When the launcher detects that a new package is available, it deletes the existing folder of the front-end on the user's machine and unzip the new package there instead.
Once the launcher has finished its tasks, it just launches the application frontend.
When the application front-end is started for the first time, it can do more checks to re-link tables if they point to the wrong location.
Notes
An alternative for detecting a new package would be to keep a small text file on the server that would contain the filename of the most current package.
Whenever a frontend is started it could check if the package name it is running is the same as the package name listed in the file. If not, then an upgrade/downgrade is necessary.
One of the advantages of this solution is that once the Access Runtime is installed, users can run in normal user session on the machine, without ever requiring administrator rights: the click-once launcher doesn't require any admin rights and if you deploy your access front-end under the user's %APPDATA% folder, you do not need elevated rights to update your front-end at all.
The first time you deploy, your launcher should also be responsible for registering the location of front-end folder as a Trusted Location so that Access allows it to run without VBA/Macros being disabled.
These are just a set of registry keys you can easily add under HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Office\14.0\Access\Security\Trusted Locations\ (the exact registry key depends on your version of Office and whether you are on a 32 bit or 64 bit system).
I save the ms access file form in the network where is accessible by everyone. Everyone has a link on their desktop to the file in the network. Every time I change the file I have to ensure every one has the ms access file closed.
I really don't want to go looking everywhere to check if the app is closed. I've also set the file to read only, but no luck...
The basic concept for MOST software in the market places is you have two parts to application:
Word documents (data) + the word program executable
Excel document (data) + the word program executable.
So for 20 years in your company, how do you deploy software?
Answer:
You install the program on EACH computer.
So you are talking about a SOFTWARE program that you developed. Just because you use c++, vb.net or Access to CREATE SOFTWARE, then you don't break this rule. There is a difference between a data file a document and COMPUTER PROGRAM.
A COMPUTER program has code, forms and user interface. So if your computer support people don't know the difference between a document and a computer program then this would be the source of your problems.
As a result, you don't allow multiple people into the one program. I mean, if one person in your building has trouble with word does everyone go home?
And while you work on the NEXT great version of your software, users should not care.
So, this means:
Like most of your software, you deploy it to each user's workstation. This will allow you to work on the next great version of your software.
When you are done your changes and added new code and new features you then:
Compile the program into an executable (in Access, this is an mde, or now an accDE. You then deploy this to each users workstation.
The above approach thus allows you to work on the NEXT GREAT version of your software. You can add to your software some update code, or even just adopt a logon script that copies down the next great version of this software to each user's desktop.
The result is:
You don't care if users are in their current version of their software, since you are working on that copy which is not locked.
So, you should be distribution a compiled version of your software, and like most of your software you REALLY WANT to distribute that software to each user's workstation.
Last but not least:
Programs like Word, or Excel have what is called re-entrant code. So if you are working in a terminal server environment, then those office programs tolerate multiple users on that server, but your program created with Access DOES NOT. So even in this case, each logged on user is to receive their OWN SEPARATE copy of the COMPILED program you created.
So how c++ works, vb.net, VB6 or in this case Access works is the SAME for most programs:
You distribute that program to EACH user's desktop, and thus the issue of you working on the next great version is a non-issue. You simply have to setup and adopt a means to check for a new version. That means you distribute a program update, not a single form update. Even in the case of changing come code, or modify a report, that will cause you to like MOST software to have to issue a new version.
So, if you issue a new version of your software you not have the problem you outline. Those users don't have to get out of their current version since you are working on a copy of the program.
You thus need to adopt some system and code that will allow you to roll out that update to each user.
I explain in details not only should you run a split database with the data and tables separate (as you have), but ALSO why you distribute a compiled edition and ALSO why EACH desktop should receive a copy of this new program here:
http://www.kallal.ca/Articles/split/index.htm
So the ONLY basic concept you need to grasp here is that in the computer and software industry we have a concept of a computer program. Once you are able to grasp that you are creating a computer program, then you can NOW grasp the concept that such programs AFTER you create such a program or AFTER you modify or create a new version of that program, you THEN distribute that NEW program to your user base. This is quite much how all software works, and Access is no different in this regards.
You don't try to include one form into the production software, but add the new form, modify code and then COMPILE the software into an executable. In fact, using a compiled Access application is strongly recommend since un-handled errors NEVER re-set global variables and as a result your software becomes far more reliable and that even includes code without error handling since local and global vars are never re-set.
One solution would be to maintain a copy of all forms, reports, modules, queries, etc (front-end code) in a separate database from the tables. You can then link the tables to a 2nd database (back-end) in a shared network Access DB. The front-end database would be deployed to each workstation, while the back-end database is shared. Obviously, this introduces the need to update each workstation, but it means that when you need to roll out new front-end logic, you don't have to go around kicking everybody out at once.
Otherwise, sadly, you need to acquire an exclusive lock on the database, and the only way to do that, is to be the only one with it open.
With the help of a script, you could automate pulling the latest "client". You could just ask all users to exit the app and double-click a batch file which copies the front-end from some network location.
I have a client who wants a control panel for the app I am developing them. The control panel is a Mac OSX application that allows the user to submit files (excel docs and such) to my MySQL database. Those files are then checked by the iOS app I have created for them.
I have no idea how to do this. I have the MySQL database all set up, and I have looked everywhere for a solution. Any help is appreciated.
I wouldn't try to connect to your MySQL database directly from your cell phone. It's a bad design for several reasons. Instead build a API on the same server as the MySQL database. It doesn't matter if you do it in java, php, c# or anything else. You might even find some product or open source project that can do this automatically. I've listed some benefits of doing it this way
It makes testing easier. You can write a test framework against your API that doesn't rely on or is using a phone.
It makes development faster. You don't need to emulate or use a phone to develop and test your table design and queries.
It gives you compatibility. When you need to change your database (and you do) you can create new APIs that the new version of the app uses while and old version still out there can continue to use the old API (that you might have to modify to still provide the same functionallity)
It gives you flexibility. If your user base grows and you might need to have replication for reads or sharded databases you build that into the API instead of into the app which is just a better way to do it.
One option would be to use PHP to handle all the database interaction.
Host the scripts on the server and just have the apps call them and get the scripts to return some sort of parseable response (I'd go for JSON).
I have never found a suitable Object-C based connector for MySQL. At this point I would suggest using a C/C++ connector. There's lots of examples of how to configure the connector for both C and C++. The hard part will be all of the data passed from the MySQL code and the Object-C code will that it will have to be in C types.
EDIT: An Example
A customer of mine asked me a better and faster solution to update it's real estate web site as he and his employees don't want to connect to the web site and update one by one the ads as they don't want to loose time waiting the normal latency of the internet.
I firstly solved the issue by building a PHP script that imported an Excel file into the web site's MySQL database and it worked greatly. But the problem were pictures that have still to be uploaded separately. I then wrote a PHP script that uploaded the pictures using ajax and drag&drop so the user could select multiple pictures and upload them at once. And this worked too, but the customer is still not completely satisfied as he says this solution is quite 'patched'.
I then thought about a desktop application - a kind of local database (could be SQLite) - that the user keeps updated locally and only at the end of the day the app connects to the remote server and updates the db and uploads the pictures.
My question is: what EASY desktop high level programming language I could use to do the job? Do you know any RAD (visual IDE) programming language able to connect to a remote mySQL server and upload data via a simple custom GUI?
I tried RealBasic and PureBasic but I did not work it out. I thought about building the app in PHP and then convert it to EXE but I did not tried yet.
Please don't suggest me Java, C or Delphy as I'm looking for something very easy.
Thank you
Have you considered a client side javascript/html app that syncs with the server, since you're already familiar with the platform? If one browser better supports what you want to do (Firefox has some extension perhaps vs Chrome, or whatever), than mandate that to run this app (rather than worrying about being portable across browsers).
All of the browsers can have client side storage now, and you can just do things locally, and finally push them to the server "all at once".
If your client is using a Windows platform, you could use IronPython (.NET), VB.NET, or C#. These all allow you to create windows/forms visually in Visual Studio. If you're not already familiar with the .NET platform I'm not sure how 'easy' this will be, but I think that's going to be true for most other platforms as well.
That being said, it sounds like your existing solution is probably the best idea - perhaps if you can make your solution feel less like a "patch" they will be satisfied.
No reason you can't use Purebasic if that's what you're comfortable with. There are HTTP file upload examples on the PB forums.
I've used Purebasic for years but I'd recommend spending the time to get to know C#/.NET - it's a world of difference and once you learn it stuff like this is pretty easy.
Would you recommend working with multiple programmers on an MS Access application?
One of our MS Access application has grown to the point where the number of changes (bug fixes) and new features can no longer be handled by one programmer in the requested time frame.
We are trying to introduce version control using the undocumented SaveAsText and LoadFromText procedures in VBA to make collaboration on this application possible. Unfortunately we have already run into problems loading modified forms and reports back into Access as a checksum is stored in every form text file.
Before putting time into building an import/export application to compile text files into an Access database, we would like to hear your recommendations.
I think you should avoid this path at all cost, and try and persuade management into redevelopment.
It's a bitter pill to swallow, but this is going to need to be redeveloped sooner or later, and you are just saving them time and money.
We were using Microsoft's own version control add-in for MS Access 2000/2002/2003 for about 5 years now, and I can't remember a single serious problem. Usability of this add-in barely deserves a "B", but it must be much, much more convenient than fiddling with any ad-hoc method involving manual or semi-manual exporting/importing of Access forms, modules, etc.
We were using VSS as a version control system all the time. No problems whatsoever. However, if you have some good reasons to avoid VSS, you may have some options:
The version control add-in that we were using does not require VSS. Theoretically it can be used with any version control system that implements Microsoft Source Code Control Interface (MSCCI). For example, when we had to let somebody work on this project remotely, we used SourceOffsite by SourceGear. Access version control add-in worked with this third-party product fairly well (not without some quirks, but well enough). So, if your favorite version control system complies with MSCCI, you could try to use it.
Now that Microsoft has this Team Foundation thingy, apparently there are other options to be used to integrate MS Access with version control. We did not explore this path, though. This article may be a good start for exploring it.
Hope this would be of some help. :-)
P.S. I am not a big fan of MS Access. In fact, I rather hate it as a platform for a user front-end. If I had a choice, I would run away from it yesterday. :-) However, I must admit that existence of this version control add-in is one of the few things that makes maintenance of our old Access+SQLServer project more or less tolerable. :-))
In addition to what I already said here, I should add that the whole system works very well. The comparison process takes less than 30 minutes a week, for a team of 3 programmers. So let's describe it a little bit.
We have basically 2 versions of our Access program:
The "Developer's version", with all the stuff in it.
We each begin to work with an identical version of our developer's edition. As each one modifies or add parts of the code, we have to run some comparison routine on a regular basis. To do so, we have an object-export routine to a common "comparison" folder. An object (module for example) is exported as a text file (saveAsText command, do not work with tables, see infra), it will be compared to the existing equivalent text files in the folder. If files are identical, there is no file exported. If files are different, the new module is exported with the developer's name as an addition to the file name (if modQueries.txt exists, then modQueries_philippe.txt is created...). Of course if there is no equivalent .txt file in the folder, it will be created at first export.
At the end of the period, we would get in our folder the following files
modQueries.txt, being the first "original", last common version of the module
modQueries_Philippe.txt, with Philippe's modifications
modQueries_Denise.txt, with Denise's modifications
As the module was not modified by other developers, their export did not lead to the creation of a specific modQueries_developersName.txt file
If for any reasons Denise exported many times her module, only the last version is in the comparison folder.
We can then compare (with a "text file" comparer) the different versions and create the "updated" version of the module. We have a screen giving us the number of objects in the comparison folder, number of version for each object, and it is even possible to open the file comparer directly from the developer's interface (We use "File Compare Tool" which has a command-line mode and can then be started directly from Access).
The forms compare issue is quite special, as one of our rules is to have no specific code in our forms (please see here for more details). Forms are then only for display, so usually we do not even compare them. We just make sure that each one of them is updated by only one person (which is quite logical).
The table compare issue (we have local tables) can be only made between mdb files. As we export one text file per module, we also export one mdb file per table. We have a small routine allowing us to identify table differences at the structure level or at the record level.
After each comparison procedure, a subroutine will use all the objects available ini the comparison folder and create a whole new clean mdb file from scratch. This is the new developer's version. Every developer can then copy it on his computer and continue his work.
Developer's versions do not have numbers, but contains last client version number.
The client version, with limited stuff, automatically distributed to users
Each developer has the possibility to build a "client" mdb for final users. This mdb is created from scratch, in a way quite similar to our developer's version, but not all objects are exported. Some specific switches are turned off (special keys, access to code, etc). This mdb holds a version number as a property. The version number is used to build the name of the mdb file.
At production time, this mdb file is zipped and placed in a specific "distribution" folder. Each time a user starts the app, it will automatically check this folder to see if a new version is available. If yes, the client mdb file is updated from the distribution folder, and the app is restarted.
This distribution folder is replicated at night time with our overseas agencies. Users abroad will then be able to install the new version on the following day.
Following the direction provided by Yarik we settled on continuing developing in Access using the Access Add-in Source Code Control, the SVN SCC API Plugin by PushOk Software and Subversion. This stack provides us with seamless Access integration, full-backup and restore and an open version control system.
We had to install a hotfix to Access 2003 and make sure the default database file type matched our database file type to make it work.
We will continue to update this answer with our findings.
Have look at this thread:
How do you use version control with Access development?
Sounds like a terribly painful way to do team development. If you have any options for porting to another environment like VS2008 that would be my recommendation.
There is no easy way to work on Access as a team and even version control might be a bit tricky.