Best way to display a web page within a web page? - html

I'm writing a webmail product and some emails have body css that changes the background ... so when I Html.Decode() that emailbody, it's altering the CSS of the entire page.
Is there a good way to contain that problem?

You can make your CSS more specific than the email's rules. For example:
body.body is more specific than .body or body
Any styles in body.body that clash with those in the lesser examples above, will override. But to stop the styles merging together, you'll need to define every single style.
Alternatively you can go with rewriting the CSS in the emails, which is the way most webmail/desktop email clients go these days, one way or the other. If you prefix all the rules with #emailMessage, for example, and place the email inside a <div id="emailMessage"></div> tag, all the styles in the email will only apply inside that namespace.
Using an iframe to display emails only introduces more problems based around accessibility, etc etc. Good luck.

The answer to your question is probably "iframe", but in your specific situation, writing a webmail client is going to introduce you to a wonderful new hell called "stripping css from possibly extremely invalid html generated by a large variety of clients that all have their own ideas about what kind of html should be allowed in an email".
Good luck!

A common way is to use iframe, although i'm not sure this is applicable for your problem.
Basically it loads a different html page inside another page. Which makes it independent, but it does mean you have 2 pages to display one email.
http://www.w3schools.com/TAGS/tag_iframe.asp

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How do I merge 2 HTML documents and their styles correctly?

I'm the author of an email client and one of things I'm in the process of doing is adding support for HTML editing. The editor itself it build upon a HTML rendering control that I've written from scratch, however it supports most HTML and CSS fairly well. The issue I'm having is formatting the reply to HTML email with the user's reply template, which is also HTML (with a different style sheet). So cleanly merging two HTML documents with their own styles without either of them being messed up by the other document's styles.
When the user replies to a HTML email, I parse out the content of the tag and put it into a that forms part of the reply. That div's style shows a line down the left margin to inform the user that it's quoting the original email. Gmail does the same thing. Anyway the styles from the HTML block as saved separately and then insert into the head part of the new document.
What happens of course is that if the original email defined a style for say a link, that style affects all the links outside the original quoted area. So things like my signature at the bottom and the From/To header rendering that is part of the reply template all get that styling from the source HTML.
I'm wondering if there is an easy straight forward solution to containing all the original styles to just the quoted part of the document? Something like namespacing? Or limited scope styling?
The solution I've come to is to add all the incoming styles from the multiple documents to a global style sheet. Styles are matched by first checking the count of properties is the same, then enumerating each property and comparing it's value. This basically gives the software a minimum number of styles to correctly render the content. It could be really slow in a pathological case but so far it's working well in practice.
As an aside, recently I've noticed a lot of email clients striping all the style out of replies. Which to be honest seems like the cheap and nasty solution to the issue. Even if it does give a consistent look.

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I'm designing an HTML template for an email newsletter. I've learned that many email clients ignore linked stylesheets, and many others (including Gmail) ignore CSS block declarations altogether. Are inline style attributes my only choice? What are the best practices for styling HTML emails?
I've fought the HTML email battle before. Here are some of my tips about styling for maximum compatibility between email clients.
Inline styles are you best friend. Absolutely don't link style sheets and do not use a <style> tag (GMail, for example, strips that tag and all it's contents).
Against your better judgement, use and abuse tables. <div>s just won't cut it (especially in Outlook).
Don't use background images, they're spotty and will annoy you.
Remember that some email clients will automatically transform typed out hyperlinks into links (if you don't anchor <a> them yourself). This can sometimes achieve negative effects (say if you're putting a style on each of the hyperlinks to appear a different color).
Be careful hyperlinking an actual link with something different. For example, don't type out http://www.google.com and then link it to https://gmail.com/. Some clients will flag the message as Spam or Junk.
Save your images in as few colors as possible to save on size.
If possible, embed your images in your email. The email won't have to reach out to an external web server to download them and they won't appear as attachments to the email.
And lastly, test, test, test! Each email client does things way differently than a browser would do.
Campaign Monitor have an excellent support matrix detailing what's supported and what isn't among various mail clients.
You can use a service like Litmus to view how an email appears across several clients and whether they get caught by filters, etc.
Mail chimp have got quite a nice article on what not to do. ( I know it sounds the wrong way round for what you want)
http://kb.mailchimp.com/article/common-html-email-coding-mistakes
In general all the things that you have learnt that are bad practise for web design seem to be the only option for html email.
The basics are:
Have absolute paths for images (eg.
https://stackoverflow.com/random-image.png)
Use tables for layout (never thought
I'd recommend that!)
Use inline styles (and old school css
too, at the very most 2.1, box-shadow
won't work for instance ;) )
Just test in as many email clients as you can get your hands on, or use Litmus as someone else suggested above! (credit to Jim)
EDIT :
Mail chimp have done a great job by making this tool available to the community.
It applies your CSS classes to your html elements inline for you!
In addition to the answers posted here, make sure you read this article:
http://24ways.org/2009/rock-solid-html-emails
The resource I always end up going back to about HTML emails is CampaignMonitor's CSS guide.
As their business is geared solely around email delivery, they know their stuff as well as anyone is going to
'Fraid so. I'd make an HTML page with a stylesheet, then use jQuery to apply the stylesheet to the style attr of each element. Something like this:
var styleAttributes = ['color','font-size']; // all the attributes you've applied in your stylesheet
for (i in styleAttributes) {
$('body *').css(styleAttributes[i],function () {
$(this).css(styleAttributes[i]);
});
}
Then copy the DOM and use that in the email.
I find that image mapping works pretty well. If you have any headers or footers that are images make sure that you apply a bgcolor="fill in the blank" because outlook in most cases wont load the image and you will be left with a transparent header. If you at least designate a color that works with the over all feel of the email it will be less of a shock for the user. Never try and use any styling sheets. Or CSS at all! Just avoid it.
Depending if you're copying content from a word or shared google Doc be sure to (command+F) Find all the (') and (") and replace them within your editing software (especially dreemweaver) because they will show up as code and it's just not good.
ALT is your best friend. use the ALT tag to add in text to all your images. Because odds are they are not going to load right. And that ALT text is what gets people to click the (see images) button. Also define your images Width, Height and make the boarder 0 so you dont get weird lines around your image.
Consider editing all images within Photoshop with a 15px boarder on each side (make background transparent and save as a PNG 24) of image. Sometimes the email clients do not read any padding styles that you apply to the images so it avoids any weird formatting!
Also i found the line under links particularly annoying so if you apply < style="text-decoration:none; color:#whatever color you want here!" > it will remove the line and give you the desired look.
There is alot that can really mess with the over all look and feel.

Big development teams can't handle a single CSS style sheet?

I am currently in a 5-7 large development team creating a really large website with lots of pages and features.
I feel like we are in such a situation where a developer can change the style sheet to suit his own needs, but is unaware of the 1000 places where it probably change it for something else. I cannot blame him either, since I know it's hard to check everything.
It's a total mess.
I know that using one single style sheet file saves bandwidth and prevents duplicated code and maintenance, but I cant help wondering - is using style sheets a good idea for big sites, or should it be more object/element oriented.
Let's say you forget about the crazy large CSS and you define the CSS on each element instead. So each time you render a GreenBuyButton, it has the "style='bla bla bla'" on it. And this is pretty much done for all elements.
This will increase the bandwidth, but it will not create duplicated code.
Could this be a good idea or how does really large teams work on a single website do with CSS to avoid it being a mess?
Why don't you create multiple CSS sheets depending on the area of the site?
blog.css
accounts.css
shopping.css
Then you could have a serverside script (say PHP) combine all CSS into 1 sheet which will get you the same result of 1 small file (could use a minimizer as well).
Check your overall site with a CSS checker to find duplicates (css defined) and manage it that way.
Otherwise communication is key between your team, who develops what, and so people don't duplicate CSS definitions. A master CSS keeper would be best suited to manage the CSS styles, besides your team should have an agreed upon style and not go rouge creating their own unique styles.
My recommendation would be to use the CSS rules on specifity to help you. For each CSS that is not global, put an activate selector on, for example
.user-list .p {
font-size: 11pt
}
.login-screen .p {
font-size: 12pt
}
This will make it easy to identify what rules are for which pages, and which rules are global. That way developers can stick to their own set of styles, and no mess up anyone else's.
Change how you write CSS.
Instead fo treating every area of the website like a specific piece of markup that needs styling, start defining broad classes.
Enforce some rules. Like, "All <ul> have a specific look for this project." If there are multiple ways you want to style an element, start using classes. This will keep your website looking uniform throughout. Uniformity reduces broken layout.
Create building block classes like a "framework" of sorts. This has helped me so often that I never start a project without doing this first. Take a look at the jquery-ui themeroller framework to give you the idea. Here's an example:
.icon { display:block;width:16px;height:16px;}
.icon-green { background:url(/green.png);}
.icon-blue { background:url(/blue.png);}
Then on the elements:
<span class="icon icon-green"></span>
<span class="icon icon-blue"></span>
Breaking your styles up into their building blocks like this and using multiple classes on the element will keep your team members from having to change styles to suit their needs. If a particular styling quirk is not available they can define a new set of classes.
UPDATE:
Here is an example of how I used this method: Movingcost.com. Huge website, multiple different sections and pages, and only 252 lines of uncompressed css. Actually, these days I break things down further than I did on the movingcost project. I probably would have gone through those elements at the bottom of the stylesheet and figured out how to combine some of those into classes.
Multiple CSS files and combine in code
While doing development I found out that doing it the following way seems to be reasonable and well suited to development teams:
Don't put any styling into HTML. Maintainability as well as lots of head scratching why certain things don't display as expected will be really bad.
Have one (or few of them) global CSS that defines styles for global parts. Usually defines everything in template/master. Can be bound to master page or to generic controls used on majority of pages.
Have per-page/per-control CSS files when they are actually needed. Most of the pages won't need them, but developers can write them
Have these files well structured in folders
use naming and formatting guidelines so everyone will be able to write/read code
Write server side code taht will combine multiple CSS files into a single one to save bandwith.
You can as well automate some other tasks like auto adding per-page CSS files if they're named the same as pages themselves.
Doing it this way will make it easier to develop, since single CSS files will be easier to handle due to less content and you will have less code merging conflicts, because users will be working on separate functionality most of the time.
But there's not feasible way of automating CSS unit tests that would make sure that changing an existing CSS setting won't break other parts of your site.
My favorite override trick is to assign the id attribute on the <body> of each page. It's an easy way to make page specific changes without breaking out a separate stylesheet file.
You could have the following html
<body id="home">
<h1>Home</h1>
</body>
<body id="about">
<h1>About</h1>
</body>
And use the following css overrides
h1 {color: black}
#about h1 {color: green}
The home page gets the default css while the about gets overridden.
Using style sheets on large sites is an excellent idea. However, it only really works when you apply your team standards to the style. It makes sense to have a singular template controller that links your style sheet(s). It also makes sense to appoint someone on the team as "keeper of the style" who all changes to the style sheet should go through before making substantive changes.
Once the style standards are agreed upon and defined, then all of the controls in the site should implement the styles defined. This allows developers to get out of the business of coding to style and simply coding to the standard. Inputs are inputs, paragraphs are paragraphs, and floating divs are a headache.
The key is standardization within the team and compliance by all of the developers. I currently lead a team site that has upwards of 30 style sheets to control everything for layout, fonts, data display, popups, menu and custom controls. We do not have any of these issues because the developers very rarely need to edit the style sheet directly because the standards are clearly designed and published.
The answer is in the name. The reason it's called cascading style sheets is because multiple can be combined and there are decent rules defined on which one takes preference.
First of all, doing all your styling inline is a ridiculous idea. Not only will it waste bandwidth like nothing else, it will also result in inconsistency. Think about it for a while: why would changing a line of css 'break' another page? That indicates your css selectors are poorly chosen.
Here are my suggestions:
use one css file for the basic site look. This css file is written by people doing mainly design, and as a result the site has a consistent look. It defines the basic colors, layout and such.
use another css file per 'section'. For instance, a 'shopping' section will use components that are nowhere else on the site. Use that to define section-specific stuff
put page-specific styling directly in the page (in the header). If this section becomes too big, you're doing something wrong
put exceptional styling directly on the components. If you're doing the same thing three times, abstract it out and use a class instead.
choose your classes wisely and use the semantics for naming. 'selectedSalesItem' is good 'greenBold' is bad
if a developer changes a stylerule and it breaks the rest of the site, why did he need to change it? Either it's an exceptional thing for what he's working on (and should be inlined) or it was basically broken on the rest of the site as well, and should be fixed anyway.
If your css files become too big to handle, you can split them up and merge them server-side, if you want.
You don't want to define CSS for each element because if you ever need to make a change that affects many elements one day, say the looks of all the buttons or headers, you will be doing a lot of Search/Replace. And how to check if you forgot to update one rule to keep your site consistent?
Stephen touched on a very strong point in CSS. You can assign multiple classes to an element.
You should define some basic rules that "ordinary" developers can't touch. They will provide the consistency through the site.
Then developers can assign an extra class to personalize any property. I wouldn't assign more than two classes though: a global and a personalized.
Considering you already have this huge stylesheet in your hands, I'm not sure how you will pick which one of the 7 developers will have to sit down through a month and organize it. That is probably going to be hard part.
First off, you need to extract your website's default element styling and page structure into a separate stylesheet. That way people understand changing those rules affects the entire site's appearance/structure, not just the page they're working on.
Once you do that, all you really need to do is document / comment all of your code. A person is a lot less likely to write duplicate code in a well-documented stylesheet, and that is a fact.

Html/ css coding standards

I'm building my first website for an internship. My instructors always told me to never embed any styles on my html page.Now that I'm actually creating a site I find it annoying that, if I want to change the color of my font for a span tag - I have to I.D. it and reference it in a css file. Is there some other reason then organizational purposes for using CSS? Would embedding a single style be such a convention breaker? Thanks for reading this and I'd appreciate any feedback.
There are a couple of reasons.
Times when you want to change the style of a single element on a single page should be exceedingly rare, so it shouldn't be such a hardship. Any other time, it is going to be more efficient (from an HTTP caching perspective) and easier to maintain (from a separation of style and structure perspective) to externalize the style information.
Since there is a good chance that you'll want to style it differently for different media (e.g. screen and print), you'll need a proper stylesheet for that too.
If you embedd a style to several HTML pages, and want to change it later, you have to go file by file changing it. That is one good enough reason for me.
The key word here is maintainability. Organized code is maintainable code! It is far better to add an id to a tag and reference it in the global css file than to do it inline, because if you want to change that style later, you know where to find it, and you only have to change it in one place.
The reason you want to offload the CSS into a different file is so the browser can cache it. Otherwise, the browser has to load all the CSS as well as all the markup on every page. If you keep it in a separate file, the browser only has to load the CSS once.
The basic argument for this is that HTML's purpose is to provide structure while CSS's job is to provide styling, by embedding CSS in HTML you're breaking this basic rule. Plus, you'll have a tough time in maintaining pages.
Ideally, a design should be consistent enough that you can use generic rules for such situations. If you want to emphasize something, then <em> or <strong> is likely the way to go. After styling your <em> or <strong>, you can easily add the same emphasis to other areas of the site.
It's not simply about performance or style, it's also about consistency and ease of maintenance.
Find the similar elements in your design and mark them up similarly. It's as easy as that.
Even if it's "just 1" you should still do it because it helps you get in the habit of it.
embedded css has the following problems:-
1. It has browser compatibility problem. Example Ie has problem understanding inbuilt styling.
2. If you want to use the same css style again , it is better to have a class for it.

Page-specific css rules - where to put them?

Often when I'm designing a site, I have a need for a specific style to apply to a specific element on a page and I'm absolutely certain it will only ever apply to that element on that page (such as an absolutely positioned button or something). I don't want to resort to inline styles, as I tend to agree with the philosophy that styles be kept separate from markup, so I find myself debating internally where to put the style definition.
I hate to define a specific class or ID in my base css file for a one-time use scenario, and I dread the idea of making page-specific .css files. For the current site I'm working on, I'm considering just putting the style definition at the top of the page in the head element. What would you do?
Look to see if there's a combination of classes which would give you the result that you want. You might also want to consider breaking up the CSS for that one element into a few classes that could be re-used on other elements. This would help minimize the CSS required for your site as a whole.
I would try to avoid page-specific CSS at the top the HTML files since that leaves your CSS fragmented in the event that you want to change the appearance of the site.
For CSS which is really, truely, never to be used on anything else, I would still resort to putting a #id rule in the site-wide CSS.
Since the CSS is linked in from a different file it allows the browsers to cache that file, which reduces your server bandwidth (very) slightly for future loads.
There are four basic cases:
style= attribute. This is the least maintainable but easiest to code. I personally consider use of style= to be a bug.
<style> element at the top of the page. This is slightly better than style= because it keeps the markup clean, however it wastes bandwidth and makes it harder to make sweeping CSS changes, because you can't look at the stylesheet(s) and know what rules exist.
page-specifc css: This lets you have the clean HTML and clean main CSS file. However, it means your client must download lots of little CSS files, which increases bandwidth and page loading latency. It is, however, very easy to maintain.
one big site-wide CSS: The main advantage of one big file is that it's only one thing to download. This is much more efficient in terms of bandwidth and latency.
If you have any server-side programming going on, you might be able to just dynamically combine multiple sheets from #3 to get the effect of #4.
I would recommend one big file, whether you actually maintain it as one file or generate the file through a build process or dynamically on the server. You can specify your selectors using page-specific IDs (always include one, just in case).
As for the answer that was accepted when I wrote this, I disagree with finding a "combination of classes that gives you the result you want". This sounds to me like the classes are identifying a visual style instead of a logical concept. Your classes should be something like "titlebox" and not "red". Then if you need to change the text colour on the user info page, you can say
#userInfoPage .titlebox h1 { color : red; }
Don't start applying classes all over the place because a class currently has a certain appearance that you want. You should put high-level concepts into your page, represented by HTML with classes, and then style those concepts, not the other way around.
I would set an id for a page like
<body id="specific-page"> or <html id="specific-page">
and make use of css override mechanism in the sitewide css file.
I think you should definitely expand the thought process to include some doubt for "page specific css". This should be a very very rare thing to have. I'd say go for the global style sheets anyway, but refactor your css / html in a way that pages don't have to have super-specific styling. And if in the end there's a few lines of page-specific markup in the global css, who cares. It's better to have it in a consistent place anyway.
Defining the style in the consuming page or inlineing your style are two sides of the same coin - in both cases you are using page bandwidth to get the style in there. I don't think one is necessarily better than the other.
I would advocate making an #Selector for it in your site-wide main stylesheet. The pollution is minimal and if you really have that many truly unique cases, you may want to rethink they way you mark-up your sites.
I would put them in a <style /> tag at the top of the page.
It's not worth it to load a page-specific CSS file for one or two specific rules. I would place it in tags in the head of the document. What I usually do is have my site-wide CSS file and then using comments, section it up based on the pages and apply specific rules there.
As you know style-sheet files are static files and cached at client. Also they can be compressed by web server. So putting them in an external file is my choice.
For that situation, I think putting the page-specific style information in the header is probably the best solution. Polluting your site-wide style sheet seems wrong, and I agree with your take on inline styles.
In that case I typically place it at the top of the page. I have a page definition framework in PHP that I use which carries local variables for each page, one of which is page-specific CSS styles.
Put it in the place you would look if you wanted to know where the style was defined.
For me, that's exactly the same place as I would place styles that were used 2 times, 5 times, or 170 times - I see no reason to exclude styles from the main stylesheet(s) based on number of uses.