I am using a home page based upon the Three-Column Holy Grail layout by Matthew James Taylor. The layout works just fine in all browers except, surprise, IE8. My center column, where the my main data lives contains a table tag like:
<table style="width: 100%">...
The result is not what was expected. I am using the version where the width of the left and right columns are`defined as fixed pixel valuse. I have not tried the percentage version yet.
Does anyone have any suggestions. I really like Taylor's design.
Thanks,
Danny
Make sure that the CSS you're using to fix the layout in IE6 and IE7 aren't causing the issues with IE8.
Your best bet is to re-write any CSS hacks (fixes) using seperate stylesheets using IE Conditional Comments to load them specifically for IE7 and IE6 seperately.
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JS Fiddle Link http://jsfiddle.net/Xfvpu/1/
Okay so I have a document with xhtml doctype and I use the proper br / tag
but for some reason the gap between two images renders differently in Firefox than it does every other browser.
The page is can be found at http://www.safaviehhome.com/Rugs/Area-Rugs.html
the CSS is all mixed up unfortunately so I can't explicitly post it, but the two images are within a DIV wrapper, and the images themselves are not in seperate divs. They both have image maps, and the size between the two images width only differ by around 20px.
In between the two images are two br /
tags, I tried fiddling around in Firebug but could not figure it out .. And I won't be happy until I figure this out .. it's pissing me off! :)
The difference between other browsers and Firefox is around a 10px difference .. Firefox adds extra spacing .. I'm not asking for any help specifically, just wanted to see if there is some rendering issues I'm not aware of so I can put this issue to rest.
Look in other browsers vs Firefox to see what I mean .. I would really appreciate some help I need to figure this out for my own knowledge.
You cannot rely on using <br/> for vertical spacing. You need to use styles, such as
<div style="margin-top:5px">image goes here</div>
Or even:
<img style="margin-top:5px" src="yourimg.jpg" />
In my experience browsers are sufficiently consistent if you use this approach.
Edited to add:
But (and I can't stress this strongly enough): browsers will never be entirely consistent. Designs which assume that 100% consistency is possible will fail. (If this seems harsh, try getting through one day using only your smartphone's browser. Yuck.)
While I do not know the exact reason why Firefox acts like it does, I can offer an advice. From my experience using br tags for layout are, er, not the wisest idea, since you easily lose control of the exact spacing it creates. Like in this case, where it seems that Firefox intreprets two br tags as two lines, whereas at least Opera take the first one as a line break after the map and the second one creates this empty space.
You didn't ask for a workaround, but I can't resist: take a look at br-less alternative.
Basically this example works great on chrome and firefox but the marked table (marked with the "this table" comment) doesn't fill the whole container in IE. I want it to look like his brothers to the left. I've been looking at it for the last 30+ minutes wondering what in the world is causing it not to work. I could use the help of a 2nd pair of eyes
The whole thing is quite huge, the problem table is towards the end of the html.
The other tables that are filling up the container all have a wrapper div with a height declared on them but its missing on that one table that is not stretching. Add it and it works fine:
http://jsfiddle.net/aVkC8/1/
Oh and: Holy inline-css styles Batman!, you can greatly simplify your code with defined classes and styles for your table.
Have you tried using something like Normalize.css in order to get consistency across browsers?
From the homepage:
Normalize.css is a customisable CSS file that makes browsers render all elements more consistently and in line with modern standards. We researched the differences between default browser styles in order to precisely target only the styles that need normalizing.
I'm having some frustrating alignment issues. I had previously posted a question because everything was arranged correctly in all of the browsers except FF. I now have everything correct but of course IE has swooped in to cause problems. It works fine in IE8 and IE9 but NOT in IE7.
http://jsfiddle.net/cSq6W/2/
Basically the left column is where the right column should be and the right column is below. I have a feeling it has something to do with inline:block or display:table-cell . Are there any known bugs with these styles in IE7?
display:table-cell is not working IE7. If you desperately need functionality that can only be provided by display: table-cell in IE7, you have two choices:
Use a real <table> and suffer unsemantic HTML.
Use JavaScript for IE7 (and lower) to fix it.
IE 7 specific bugs from quirksmode.org:
http://www.quirksmode.org/bugreports/archives/explorer_7/index.html
I'm having difficulty trying to get IE7 to behave like a normal browser.
I have a HTML sample here: http://jsfiddle.net/6QSYM/4/ that looks fine in most browsers, but when viewed with IE7 you can see that the "Sector Used" text is merged with the line below it.
Can somebody suggest how I can correct this?
I run into this problem all the time! At the company I work at we still have to support IE7 (will it ever just DIE!). So the best solution I have found is to set the width for your none floating div. It's a hassle but that why IE knows how to calculate the layout.
Try adding:
clear:both;
to your .risk-statistic-container class.
Try this:
http://jsfiddle.net/6QSYM/9/
the semantics of your HTML elements are all over the place as well. Way too many spans and divs for me :)
Hope that helps.
I've noticed that some browsers have trouble with margins, especially when an element is floated. For example, this website I'm doing looks fine in Firefox, but IE7 screws up the margins completely it seems. I also testet it on several Linux browsers as well and some of the make similar mistakes.
The site is
http://w3box.com/mat
This looks fine in FF3.0 as far as I can tell. Haven't seen it in FF2 yet, or IE6.
Why does this happen? Is it because I've got floated DIVs with specified margins?
Are there some things I should avoid or should have done differently?
Edit: So it looks like my tags was the source of the screwup.
I'd placed images in the that was not defined in the CSS and that had floats on them, combined with margins. These screwed up everything and I have to redo these.
Also, some stuff happened when I used XHTML Strict instead :)
Thanx everyone! I'll try to fix this on my own :)
I disagree with using a library if you want to learn about CSS part of the curve unfortunately is learning about the ways different browsers react to CSS. I wouldn't even suggest using a reset stylesheet. If you are going to be doing this a lot learn how CSS works. If you use a library or a set stylesheet which you don't understand how will you fix it when it breaks.
Marging are not bad, but IE has some troubles with the margins of float elements. While there are many recipes for fixing, I believe that in your case you may use absolute positioning instead of float+margins (you don't really need "float" behavior when the image is wrapped by text)
There is nothing wrong with using margins.
Old versions of IE have one bug and that alone isn't nearly enough of a reason to avoid using one of the core layout features of CSS. Specifically, this bug occurs in IE when you float an object and give it a margin in the same direction, e.g.:
.whatever {
float: right;
margin-right: 5px;
}
You can deal with this a number of ways, depending on your layout. One way would be to add another div around your box and use padding on that to replicate the same space a margin would.
I'd suggest using some form of CSS Framework (Blueprint CSS, 960 Grid, etc) as they have a number of margin, padding and other common HTML element resets. You should find cross browser development is easier using a framework.
Different browsers have different ways to handle box model. Most of the time the sites which are displayed well in FF, Chrome or IE8 can have problems in IE6 and 7.
To workaround this problem you can try to set all the default margin and padding to 0 (and adjust them as needed on specific elements):
*{ margin:0px; padding: 0px; } //Simplest rule...
To see more on CSS reset you can look at: http://meyerweb.com/eric/tools/css/reset/
And then apply different styles for IE7 and 6 with conditional comments.
As mentioned on other answers it's to do with IE's interpretation of the box model.
Whenever anything is floated IE tends to double the margins specified. This can be fixed with an extra stylesheet for IE using conditional comments.
See also: http://www.positioniseverything.net/explorer/doubled-margin.html