I want to assemble a new computer mainly for CUDA applications. When it comes to CPU I have to choose between AMD and Intel.
Most of the AMD's processors don't have integrated gpu while Intel's processors do.
My question is:
If the nvidia gpu would be the only graphic processing unit in the whole PC (without integrated one),
would its efficiency for CUDA programs be worse as it has to produce some graphics on a desktop (while using for example Matlab)?
The anwer is yes, efficiency would be slightly lower due to the GPU doing display tasks, like moving the cursor around or scrolling a display in a .pdf browser.
however if you are aiming for a reasonably mid-to-high-end GPU, the loss of efficiency is marginal. If you have enough money, you will buy dedicated GPU, but if not, then just don't bother. It might be like 1% or less.
A bigger problem is that the display takes up RAM, that (a) becomes unavailable to CUDA applications and (b) the CUDA manual states that the display driver is allowed to dis-own the CUDA application from it's memory at any time without warning (!).
If you ask me if that does really happen (display driver taking over the CUDA app memory), then yes, I have experienced it, with the prime example being when you change the resolution of your display.
So definetely don't do any banking with GPUs or you might see your accounts being randomly infused with millions :-)
That's why 'proffesional' CUDA cards (the tesla variety) have no display outputs - just in case.
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I am using CUDA 6.0 and the OpenCL implementation that comes bundled with the CUDA SDK. I have two identical kernels for each platform (they differ in the platform specific keywords). They only read and write global memory, each thread different location. The launch configuration for CUDA is 200 blocks of 250 threads (1D), which corresponds directly to the configuration for OpenCL - 50,000 global work size and 250 local work size.
The OpenCL code runs faster. Is this possible or am I timing it wrong? My understanding is that the NVIDIA's OpenCL implementation is based on the one for CUDA. I get around 15% better performance with OpenCL.
It would be great if you could suggest why I might be seeing this and perhaps some differences between CUDA and OpenCL as implemented by NVIDIA?
Kernels executing on a modern GPU are almost never compute bound, and are almost always memory bandwidth bound. (Because there are so many compute cores running compared to the available path to memory.)
This means that the performance of a given kernel usually depends largely on the memory access patterns exhibited by the given algorithm.
In practice this makes it very difficult to predict (or even understand) what performance to expect ahead of time.
The differences you observed are likely due to subtle differences in the memory access patterns between the two kernels that result from different optimizations made by the OpenCL vs CUDA toolchain.
To learn how to optimize your GPU kernels it pays to learn the details of the memory caching hardware available to you, and how to use it to best advantage. (e.g., making strategic use of "local" memory caches vs always going directly to "global" memory in OpenCL.)
I'm preparing an acceptance test for a new machine with Nvidia graphics cards and I'd like a simple CUDA program that will fully exercise the GPU for a full day. The intent is to generate large amounts of heat and ensure the new machine is stable under the load. I'd like the code to be very easy to compile and run (no dependencies, no large input data sets), and also very easy to verify (small amounts of output). Also, I'd like it to be command-line only, no GUI (the test will have to be automated).
I was originally thinking of repeatedly running Vector Dot Products of large vectors. However, that's mostly memory-intensive. So if the GPUs are constantly waiting on memory accesses, then they probably aren't generating as much heat as they could.
I'm running on a CentOS Linux machine.
Does anyone have any suggestions?
You didn't mention which OS you are on.
Ideally, you would want to stress the floating point units, the logic/integer units, the GPU memory, the GPU voltage regulators (VRMs) and the main PSU. I don't think there is any single utility out there that does that.
Memory:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/cudagpumemtest/
Integer (?):
http://sourceforge.net/projects/cudalucas/
PSU and VRMs (In the past, this program could cause GPUs to run out-of-spec, breaking the card. I don't think that's the case anymore):
http://www.ozone3d.net/benchmarks/fur/
I am trying to run my code on NVIDIA's K10 GPU. I am using 5.0 CUDA Driver and 4.2 CUDA runtime. The problem is that the time taken by the kernel increases with iterations, where each iteration uses the same number of sources and targets (or particles). Because of this, the kernel eventually takes very large times, and the code crashes with runtime error, which says something like "GPU fallen off the bus".
The plot showing the behavior of increasing kernel run time with number of iterations can be seen here:
https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B5QLL4ig3LVqODdmVjNBTlp5UFU
I tried to run the NVIDIA "nbody" example to understand if the same thing happens here too, and yes it does. For the number of particles/bodies (Np) = 1e5 and 10 iterations, code runs fine. For Np=1e5 and iterations= 100, OR Np=1e6 and iterations = 10, code goes into a mode where it hangs the entire system.
When I run my own kernel as well as NVIDIA's nbody example on a different machine with Tesla C2050 NVIDIA card (CUDA Driver version: 3.2, and runtime version: 3.2), there is no problem, and kernel takes the same amount of time for every iteration.
I am trying to understand whats going on in the machine with the K10 GPU. I have tried different combinations of CUDA driver and runtime versions on this machine, and here is what I get:
For 5.0 CUDA Driver, 4.2 Runtime, it just hangs and sometimes says "GPU fallen off the bus".
For 4.2 CUDA Driver, 4.2 Runtime, the codes (nbody as well as my code) crash with error: "CUDA Runtime API error 39: uncorrectable ECC error encountered."
For 5.0 CUDA Driver, 5.0 Runtime, it just hangs and sometimes says "GPU fallen off the bus".
This is a 64-bit linux machine, which we have recently assembled with NVIDIA K10 GPU card. I am using gfortran44 and gcc44.
Please let me know if any other info. is required to track the problem.
Thanks in advance for the help!
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I'm mostly just creating an answer so we can call this question closed, but I'll try to add a few details.
Tesla GPUs come in 2 distinct categories: those with a fan, and those without. Those with a fan carry (at this time) the "C" designation, although the K20 product family naming will be slightly different:
These are not exhaustive lists:
Tesla GPUs with a Fan: C870, C1060, C2050, C2070, C2075, K20c ("C Class")
Tesla GPUs without a Fan: M1060, M2050, M2070, M2075, M2090, K10, K20, K20X ("M class")
(note that there is currently no K10 type product with a fan or "C" designation)
Tesla GPUs with a fan are designed to be plugged into a wide variety of PC boxes and chassis, including various workstation and server variants. Since they have their own fan, they require a supply of inlet air that is below a certain temperature level, but given that, they will keep themselves cool. As the workload increases, and the generated heat increases, they will spin up their own fan to keep themselves cool. The main ways you can screw up this process are by either restricting the inlet air flow or by putting it in an ambient air environment that is hotter than its max inlet spec.
Tesla GPUs without a fan have something called a passive heatsink and they cannot keep themselves cool independently and take a passive role in the cooling process. They still have a temperature sensor, but it becomes the responsibility of the server BMC (baseboard management controller) to monitor this temperature sensor (this is done directly at the hardware/firmware level, independent of any OS or any activity being directed at the GPU), and to direct a level of airflow over the card that is sufficient to keep the card cool based on it's indicated temperature. The BMC does this by ramping up whatever fans are designed into the server chassis that control airflow over the GPU. Normally there will be shrouding/ducting within the chassis to aid in this process. Server manufacturers integrating these cards have a variety of responsibilities and must follow various technical specifications from NVIDIA in order to make this work.
If you happen to get your hands on a Tesla GPU without a fan and just slap it in some random chassis, you're pretty much guaranteed to have the behavior as described in this question. For this reason, Tesla "M" series and "K" series GPUs are normally only sold to OEMs who have undergone the qualification process.
Since the average sysadmin/system assembler is not likely to devise a suitable closed loop fan control system and normally does not have easy access to the necessary specifications defining the temperature sensor and access method, the only klugey workaround if you have one of these that you simply must play with, is to direct a high level of continuous airflow over the card, in whatever setting you put it. Be advised, that this will most likely be noisy. If you don't have a noisy level of airflow, you probably do not have enough airflow to keep a card cool that is in a high workload situation. In addition, you should probably keep an eye on GPU temps. Note that the nvidia-smi method for monitoring GPU temps does not work for all M class GPUs (i.e. GPUs without a fan). Unfortunately, the method of temperature sensor access in Fermi and prior for the M class GPUs (different than the C class GPUs) was such that it could not be readily monitored in-system via the nvidia-smi command, so in these cases you will get no temperature reading from nvidia-smi, making this approach even harder to manage. Things changed with the Kepler generation, so now the temperature can be monitored both by the nvidia-smi method and by the server BMC at the hardware/firmware level.
C class products with a fan have a temperature that can be monitored with nvidia-smi, regardless of generation. But this is normally not necessary since the card has it's own control system to keep itself cool.
As mentioned in the comments, all GPUs also have a variety of protection mechanisms, none of which are guaranteed to prevent damage. (If you throw the card in a fire, there's nothing to be done about that.) But the first typical mechanism is thermal throttling. At some predefined high temperature near the maximum safe operating range of the GPU, the GPU firmware will independently reduce its clocks to attempt to prevent further temperature rise. (If the card is clocked slower, then generally it's ability to generate heat is also somewhat reduced.) This is a crude mechanism, and when this thermal throttling occurs, something in the cooling arena is already wrong. The card is designed to not enter thermal throttling ever, under normal operating conditions. If temperatures continue to rise (and there is not much headroom at this point), the card will enter it's final protection mode which is to halt itself. At this point the GPU has become unresponsive to the system, and at the OS level, messages like "gpu has fallen of the bus" are typical. This means cooling has failed and protection mechanisms have failed.
I develop algorithms in CUDA on my desktop which should later run on a server.
Is it okay to use a recent low end card (like compute capability 2.1) to get all the nice debug and profiling features and then put the code on the server with the high end card (with the same cc)? Would I just need to adjust the thread/mesh sizes, or does it change everything™.
Example: I would develop on a Quadro 600 and the server would use a Tesla C2075.
As long your kernel call and kernel itself is scalable you have no problem.
Check out this question:
CUDA development on different cards?
There are some issues, like memory bandwith being different (25.6 GiB/s on Quadro and 148 GiB/s on Tesla, according to your links), or different number of SMs (the driver could distribute blocks across SMs differently). However, in most cases such small diffrences are of minor importance.
If the server has more than one GPU installed then you need to change your code to run on Multi-GPU to fully leverage the power of the server. Although the same code will run fine but on a single card.
In case there's only one card on server; general rule of thumb is that you do not need to change any line of code to harness the power of the stronger GPU as the driver distributes the load among SMs automatically.
I'm just starting to learn how to do CUDA development(using version 4) and was wondering if it was possible to develop on a different card then I plan to use? As I learn, it would be nice to know this so I can keep an eye out if differences are going to impact me.
I have a mid-2010 macbook pro with a Nvidia GeForce 320M graphic cards(its a pretty basic laptop integrated card) but I plan to run my code on EC2's NVIDIA Tesla “Fermi” M2050 GPUs. I'm wondering if its possible to develop locally on my laptop and then run it on EC2 with minimal changes(I'm doing this for a personal project and don't want to spend $2.4 for development).
A specific question is, I heard that recursions are supported in newer cards(and maybe not in my laptops), what if I run a recursion on my laptop gpu? will it kick out an error or will it run but not utilize the hardware features? (I don't need the specific answer to this, but this is kind of the what I'm getting at).
If this is going to be a problem, is there emulators for features not avail in my current card? or will the SDK emulate it for me?
Sorry if this question is too basic.
Yes, it's a pretty common practice to use different GPUs for development and production. nVidia GPU generations are backward-compatible, so if your program runs on older card (that is if 320M (CC1.3)), it would certainly run on M2070 (CC2.0)).
If you want to get maximum performance, you should, however, profile your program on same architecture you are going to use it, but usually everything works quite well without any changes when moving from 1.x to 2.0. Any emulator provide much worse view of what's going on than running on no-matter-how-old GPU.
Regarding recursion: an attempt to compile a program with obvious recursion for 1.3 architecture produces compile-time error:
nvcc rec.cu -arch=sm_13
./rec.cu(5): Error: Recursive function call is not supported yet: factorial(int)
In more complex cases the program might compile (I don't know how smart the compiler is in detecting recursions), but certainly won't work: in 1.x architecture there was no call stack, and all function calls were actually inlined, so recursion is technically impossible.
However, I would strongly recommend you to avoid recursion at any cost: it goes against GPGPU programming paradigm, and would certainly lead to very poor performance. Most algorithms are easily rewritten without the use of recursion, and it is much more preferable way to utilize them, not only on GPU, but on CPU as well.
The Cuda Version at first is not that important. More important are the compute capabilities of your card.
If you programm your kernels using cc 1.0 and they are scalable for the future you won't have any problems.
Choose yourself your minimum cc level you need for your application.
Calculate necessary parameters using properties and use ptx jit compilation:
If your kernel can handle arbitrary input sized data and your kernel launch configuration scales across thousands of threads it will scale across future versions.
In my projects all my kernels used a fixed number of threads per block which was equal to the number of resident threads per streaming multiprocessor divided by the number of resident blocks per streaming multiprocessor to reach 100% occupancy.
Some kernels need a multiple of two number of threads per block so I handled this case also since not for all cc versions the above equation guaranteed a multiple of two block size.
Some kernels used shared memory and its size was also deducted by the cc level properties.
This data was received using (cudaGetDeviceProperties) in a utility class and using ptx jit compiling my kernels worked without any changes on all devices. I programmed on a cc 1.1 device and ran tests on latest cuda cards without any changes!
All kernels were programmed to work with 64-bit length input data and utilizing all dimensions of the 3D Grid. (I am pretty sure in a year I will continue working on this project so this was necessary)
All my kernels except one did not exceeded the cc 1.0 register limit while having 100% occ. So if the used card cc was below 1.2 I added a maxregcount command to my kernel to still enforce 100% occ.
This does not guarantees best possible performance!
For possible best performance each kernel should be analyzed regarding its parameters and resources.
This maybe is not practicable for all applications and requirements
The NVidia Kepler K20 GPU available in Q4 2012 with CUDA 5 will support recursive algorithms.