Many highly similar objects in the same database table - mysql

Hello, stackoverflow community!
I am working on a rather large database-driven web application. The underlying database is growing in complexity as more components are being added, but so far I've had absolutely no trouble normalizing the data quite nicely.
However, this final component implies a table that can hold products.
Each product has a category, and depending on the category, has different fields.
Making a table for each product category doesn't seem right, as there are currently five types, and they still have quite a lot of fields in common. (but in weird ways - a few general fields such as description and price are common to all 5 categories, but some attributes are shared between 1 and 2, others 3,4,5 and so on).
I'm trying to steer away from the EAV model for obvious performance reasons.
The thing is that according to what product type the user wants to enter into the database there is a somewhat (but not completely) different field structure - all of them have a name and general description, but other attributes such as "area covered" can be applied only to certain categories such as seeds and pesticides, but not fuel, which would have a diesel/gasoline boolean and a bunch of other fuel-related attributes.
Should I just extract the core features in a table, and make another five for each category type? That would be a bit hard to expand in the future.
My current idea would be to have the product table contain all the fields from all the possible categories, and then just have another table to describe which category from the product table has which fields.
product: id | type | name | description | price | composition | area covered | etc.
fields: id | name (contains a list of the fields in the above table)
product-fields: id | product_type | field_id (links a bunch of fields to the product table based on the product type)
I reckon this wouldn't be too slow, easy to search (no need to actually join the other tables, just perform the search on the main product table based on some inputs) and it would facilitate things like form generation and data validation with just one lightweight additional query /join. (fetch a product from the db and join a concatenated list of the fields actually used in a string - split that and display the proper form fields based on what it contains, i.e. the fields actually associated with that product.
Thanks for your trouble!
Andrei Bârsan

EAV can actually be quite good at storing data and fetching that databack again when you know the key. It also excels in it's ability to add fields without changing the schema. But where it's quite poor is when you need the equivilent of WHERE field1 = x and field2 = y.
So while I agree the data behaviour is important (how many products share the same fields, etc), the use of that data is also important.
Which fields need searching, which fields are always just data storage, etc
In most cases I'd suggest keeping all fields that need searching, in combination with each other, in the same table.
In practice this often leads to a single table solution.
New fields require schema changes, new indexes, etc
Potential for sparsely populated data, using more space than is 'required'
Allows simple queries, simple indexing and often the fastest queries
Often, though not always, the space overhead is marginal
Where the sparse-data overheads reach a critical point, I would then head towards additional tables grouped by what fields they contain. More specifically, I would not create tables by product. This is on the dual assumption that most/all fields will be shared across at least some products, and that those fields will need searching.
This gives a schema more like...
Main_table ( PK, Product_Type, Field1, Field2, Field3 )
Geo_table ( PK, county, longitute, latitude )
Value ( PK, cost, sale_price, tax )
etc
You may also have a meta-data table describing which product types have which fields, etc.
What this schema allows is a more densly populated set of tables, which can be easily indexed and so quickly searched, while minimising table clutter and joins by grouping related fields.
In the end, there isn't a true answer, it's all a balancing act. My general rule of thumb is to stay with a single table until I actually have a real and pressing reason not to, not just a theoretical one.

In my experience unless you are writing a a complete framework that can render fully described fields (we are talking about a lot of metadata describing each field) it is not worth separating field definitions from the main object. Modern frameworks (like Grails) allow for virtual zero pain adding a new column to a domain/Model class and table.
If your common field overlap is about 80% between all object types I would put them all in 1 table and use Table per Hierarchy inheritance model, where a descriminator field helps you tell your object types apart. On the other hand if you have 20% overlap of common fields then go with Table per Class inheritance model with base class and table containing common fields. And other joint tables hang off the base.

Should I just extract the core features in a table, and make another five for each category type? That would be a bit hard to expand in the future.
This is called a SuperType - SubType relationship. It works very well if most of your queries are one of two types:
If you will be querying mostly the SupetType table and only drilling down into the SubType table infrequently.
If you will be querying the database after being filtered to a specific SubType.

Related

Pro and cons of having either one table for all publications or different tables for different kinds of publications?

Let's imagine we have two categories of publications - movies and books. Is it better to create one MySQL table for all publications or two different tables and unite them every time we show them in the united feed?
EDIT: The structure is little different. it has some common and uncommon data
Assuming both categories got the same attributes,
there is no difference in query performance (According to Multiple Table Select vs. JOIN (performance) )
In that case the solution with one table uses slightly more storage than the two table solution as you need a further column for differentiation (e.g. type).
EDIT
As your structure is different, you should use the two-table-solution as you get NULL fields if you use the one-table-solution.
A bad example for the table Publications:
In the given example you do not need an additional attribute to differentiate the two types because you could determine the type by Pages or Director.
You should avoid NULL values, especially when they are not meant to be filled with data in the future.

MySQL multiple column relationships between 2 tables

I have this problem in a table where there are 4 columns which include terms describing the product. I want to make this terms editable (and you can add more) in my app and there are 4 groups of them obviously. I created a table who has all these terms altogether but the product table will have to create 4 relationships with the ID of the terms table.
Is this a good solution?
The main reason I don't want to make 4 different tables for the terms is because there aren't many of them and as the app progresses we might have even more different term groups, thus adding many small tables cluttering the database.
Any suggestion?
Update #1: Here is my current schema http://i.imgur.com/q2a1ldk.png
Have a product table and a terms (product_id, terms_name, terms_description) which will allow you to add as many or as little terms for each product as you want. You just need to retrieve all terms from the terms table with a particular product id.
You could try a mapping table:
apputamenti(id, ...)
term_map (apputamenti_id, term_id)
terms (id, text, type)
So you can add as many terms as you want.
Or if you want to specify the mapping with one more field, change:
term_map (apputamenti_id, term_id, map_type)
so you can use an enum for map_type like enum(tipologia, feedback, target) or whatever your original fields where

How to design the database when you need too many columns? [duplicate]

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I have a table called cars but each car has hundreds of attributes and they keep on increasing over time (horsepower, torque, a/c, electric windows, etc...) My table has each attribute as a column. Is that the right way to do it when I have thousands of rows and hundreds of columns? Also, I made each attribute a column so I facilitate advanced searching / filtering.
Using MySQL database.
Thanks
This is an interesting question IMHO, and the answer may depend on your specific data model and implementation. The most important factor in this case is data density.
How much of each row is actually filled up, in average?
If most of your fields are always present, then data scope partition may be the way to go.
If most of your fields are empty, then a metadata-like structure (like #JayC suggested) may be more attractive.
Let's use the case you mentioned, and do some simulations.
On the first case, scope partition, the idea is to implement partitions based on scope or usage. As an example of partitioning by usage, let's say that the most retrieved fields are Model, Year, Maker and Color. These fields may compose your main [CAR] table, the owner of the ID field which will exclusively identify the vehicle.
Now let's say that Engine, Horsepower, Torque and Cylinders are also used for searches from time to time, but not so frequently. These may exist on a secondary table [CAR_INFO_1], which is tied to the first table by the presence of the CAR_ID field, a foreign key. Proceed by creating as many partitions you need.
Advantage: Simpler queries. You may coalesce all information about a vehicle if you do a joint query (for example inside a VIEW).
Downside: Maintenance. Each new field must be implemented in the model itself, and you need an updated data model to locate where the field you need is actually stored (or abstract it inside a view.)
Metadata format is much more elegant, but demands more of your database engine. Check #JayC's and #Nitzan Shaked's answers for details.
Advantages: 100% data density. You'll never have empty Data values. Also maintenance - a new attribute is created by adding it as a row to the metadata identifier table. Data structure is less complex as well.
Downside: Complex queries, together with more complex execution plans. Let's say you need all Ford cars made in 2010 that are blue. It would be very trivial on the first case:
SELECT * FROM CAR WHERE Model='Ford' AND Year='2010' AND Color='Blue'
Now the same query on a metadata-structured model:
Assume the existence of this two tables,
CAR_METADATA_TYPE
ID DESC
1 'Model'
2 'Year'
3 'Color'
and
CAR_METADATA [CAR_ID], [METADATA_TYPE_ID], [VALUE]
The query itself would like something like this:
SELECT * FROM CAR, CAR_METADATA [MP1], CAR_METADATA [MP2], CAR_METADATA [MP3]
WHERE MP1.CAR_ID = CAR.ID AND MP1.METADATA_TYPE_ID = 1 AND MP1.Value='Ford'
AND MP2.CAR_ID = CAR.ID AND MP2.METADATA_TYPE_ID = 2 AND MP2.Value='2010'
AND MP3.CAR_ID = CAR.ID AND MP3.METADATA_TYPE_ID = 3 AND MP3.Value='Blue'
So, it all depends on you needs. But given your case, my suggestion would be the Metadata format.
(But do a model cleanup first - no repeated fields, 1:N data on their own table instead of inline fields like Color1, Color2, Color3, this kind of stuff ;) )
I guess the obvious question is, then: why not have a table car_attrs(car, attr, value)? Each attribute is a row. Most queries can be re-written to use this form.
If it is all about features, create a features table, list all your features as rows and give them some sort of automatic id, and create a car_features that with foreign keys to both your cars table and your features table that associates cars with features, maybe along with any values associated with the relationship (one passenger electric seat, etc.).
If you have ever changing attributes, then consider storing them in an XML blob or text structure in one column. This structure is not relational. The most important attributes will then be duplicated in additional columns so you can craft queries to search on them as the Blob will not be searchable from SQL queries. This will cut down on the amount of columns in that table and allow for expansion without changing the database schema.
As others as suggested, if you want all the attributes in a table, then use an attribute table to define them. Then will depend on your requirements and needs of the application.

MySQL table with multiple values in one field [duplicate]

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I'm building a database for a real estate company.. Those real estate properties are managed by the sales people using a CodeIgniter website.
How should I proceed with the database design for this table. The fields like address/location, price etc. are pretty straightforward but there are some sections like Kitchen Appliences, Property Usage etc... where the sales people can check multiple values for that field.
Furthermore, a property can have multiple people attached to it (from the table people), this can be an intermediaire, owner, seller, property lawyer etc... Should I use one field for this or just I create an extra table and normalize the bindings?
Is the best way to proceed just using one field and using serialized data or is there a better way for this?
In a relational database you should never, EVER, put more than one value in a single field - this violates first normal form.
With the sections like Kitchen Appliances, Property Usage etc... where the sales people can check multiple values for that field, it depends on whether it will always be the same set of multiple options that can be specified:
If there are always the same set of multiple options, you could include a boolean column on the property table for each of the options.
If there are likely to be a variety of different options applicable to different properties, it makes more sense to set up a separate table to hold the available options, and a link table to hold which options apply to which properties.
The first approach is simpler and can be expected to perform faster, while the latter approach is more flexible.
A similar consideration applies to the people associated with each house; however, given that a single property can have (for example) more than one owner, the second approach seems like the only one viable. I therefore suggest separate tables to hold people details (name, phone number, etc) and people roles (such as owner, seller, etc.) and a link table to link roles to properties and people.
You should create extra table for it....
For example...
Consider the scenario that 1 item may have many categories and 1 category may have many items...
Then you can create table like this...
Create three tables for that....
(1) tblItem :
fields:
itemId (PK)
itemName
etc..
(2) tblCategory :
fields:
categoryId (PK)
categoryName
etc..
(3) tblItemCategory :
fields:
itemId (PK/FK)
categoryId (PK/FK)
So according to your data you can create an extra table for it....
I think it would be optimize way....
If you want your data to be in third normal form, then you should think in terms of adding extra tables, rather than encoding multiple values into various fields. However it depends how far your brief goes.

Is it good practice to consolidate small static tables in a database?

I am developing a database to store test data. Each piece of data has 11 tags of metadata. Currently I have a separate table for each of the metadata options. I have seen a few questions on here regarding best practices for numerous small tables, but I thought I'd pose the question for my own project because I didn't get a clear answer from the other questions asked.
Here is my table list, with the fields in each table:
Source Type - id, name, description
For Flight - id, name, description
Site - id, name, abrv, description
Stand - id, site (FK site table), name, abrv, descrition
Sensor Type - id, name, channels, descrition
Vehicle - id, name, abrv, descrition
Zone - id, vehicle (FK vehicle table), name, abrv, description
Event Type - id, name, description
Event - id, event type (FK to event type Table), name, descrition
Analysis - id, name, descrition
Bandwidth - id, name, descrition
You can see the fields are more or less the same in each of these tables. There are three tables that reference another table.
Would it be better to have just one large table called something like Meta with the following fields:
Meta: id, metavalue, name, abrv, FK, value, descrition
where metavalue = one of the above table names
and FK = a reference to another row in the Meta table in place of a foreign key?
I am new to databases and multiple tables seems most intuitive, but one table makes the programming easier.
So questions are:
Is it good practice to reduce the number of tables and put all static values in one table.
Is it bad to have a self referencing table.
FYI I am making this web database using django and mysql on a windows server with NTFS formatting.
Tips and best practices appreciate.
thanks.
"Would it be better to have just one large table" - emphatically and categorically, NO!
This anti-pattern is sometimes referred to as 'The one table to rule them all"!
Ten Common Database Design Mistakes: One table to hold all domain values.
Using the data in a query is much easier
Data can be validated using foreign key constraints very naturally,
something not feasible for the other
solution unless you implement ranges
of keys for every table – a terrible
mess to maintain.
If it turns out that you need to keep more information about a
ShipViaCarrier than just the code,
'UPS', and description, 'United Parcel
Service', then it is as simple as
adding a column or two. You could even
expand the table to be a full blown
representation of the businesses that
are carriers for the item.
All of the smaller domain tables will fit on a single page of disk.
This ensures a single read (and likely
a single page in cache). If the other
case, you might have your domain table
spread across many pages, unless you
cluster on the referring table name,
which then could cause it to be more
costly to use a non-clustered index if
you have many values.
You can still have one editor for all rows, as most domain tables will
likely have the same base
structure/usage. And while you would
lose the ability to query all domain
values in one query easily, why would
you want to? (A union query could
easily be created of the tables easily
if needed, but this would seem an
unlikely need.)
Most of these look like they won't do anything but expand codes into descriptions. Do you even need the tables? Just define a bunch of constants, or codes, and then have a dictionary of long descriptions for the codes.
The field in the referring table just stores the code. eg: "SRC_FOO", "EVT_BANG" etc.
This is also often known as the One True Lookup Table (OTLT) - see my old blog entry OTLT and EAV: the two big design mistakes all beginners make.